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QUOTE(RockRaines @ Nov 9, 2007 -> 12:17 PM) Joe Crede career .259 .305 .446 .750 Josh Fields .244 .308 .480 .788 Better? Nope. Josh as a rookie already is producing the same as can be expected from Joe. In his minor league career he has shown a propensity to strike out, but also get on base. In the end they may have similar batting avg's but josh should have superior OBP, SLG, OPS, and walk numbers. Field's first stint as an every day 3B he posted a not great .958 FPCT Joe Crede's first stint (2002) produced a .938 FPCT. The next full season showed an improvement to .964 Don't even bother, some people just can not be swayed no matter how much evidence you throw at them.

That would have been a coup. It's a shame Wade didn't bite.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Nov 9, 2007 -> 10:58 AM) Sort of and not really. It's quite mysterious, really. For example, in this year's rankings, A-Rod wasn't ranked as the best player -- I believe it was Ortiz. It's a clusterf*** of a system that needs to be fixed, as crappy middle relievers like Scott Linebrink get two picks and average starting pitchers like Jon Garland are somehow only type B's (which don't give compensation anymore, IIRC). You get a sandwich pick for the loss of a type B free agent but the team that signs said player does not lose a draft pick for signing him. I think I'm going to put this somewhere just for reference: Type A: Top 20% - 1st round pick and a sandwich pick. Team that signs the player loses their 1st rounder unless they have a top 15 pick then they lose a 2nd rounder. Type B: Top 40% (but not top 20%) - Sandwich pick. Team that signs the player does not lose a pick. And I agree with you, it's a f***ing joke of a system.

How are you trading for Cabrera without giving up one of Fields or the prospects from a Konerko trade? If it's possible to get him without subtracting one of the two then you probably have the most potent lineup in White Sox history but I don't really see how that could be pulled off.

QUOTE(BearSox @ Nov 9, 2007 -> 10:30 AM) I don't know how that quote got there, but I agree with you. Plus, he can play 3B, SS, and 1B. That happens from time to time, for whatever reason when I replied to your Loretta post it quoted another post of yours from the Cabrera thread. I don't know why that happens but it does.

Dayton Moore says he's not trading David DeJesus.

QUOTE(BearSox @ Nov 9, 2007 -> 10:21 AM) He's their best middle of the order hitter now... He has put up some very consistent numbers against lefties over the past 4 years or so usually with an OPS somewhere in the upper 700's to low 800's. Assuming he's not offered a starting gig somewhere (which I think he's looking for) he'd be an outstanding platoon partner with Richar.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Nov 9, 2007 -> 09:55 AM) Possible ideas on the trade rumor front: Garland to the mets The rockies may think about moving Holliday The Sox have called about Bill Hall as our SS Andru jones may be the actual CF target for the Sox According to the Denver post the Rockies are about to offer Holliday a 4 year $60M deal that he'll probably accept. I wouldn't want him anyway. He would cost WAY more than he's worth in terms of both talent to acquire him and money he'll get in any extension. (though he does have 2 arb years left so he'd have some time to not live up to expectations before he'd have to be extended.

QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Nov 9, 2007 -> 09:44 AM) Come on man, he was playing injured and went under the knife. Gargabe is a bit off... In terms of his value according to the Elias Sports Bureau he was garbage, the system doesn't give a s*** why you were terrible.

QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ Nov 9, 2007 -> 08:23 AM) No he won't. If Crede plays the year and walks as a FA the Sox could get 2 high picks. If he is healthy and it appears he is, he is a better option than Fields. Fields working on his defense and a back-up to Thome and Konerko should something happen is not a bad thing. He is not going to give him away. I HIGHLY doubt it. Crede will have to have the best year of his career (~.900 OPS) in order to finish as a type A free agent and bring in 2 picks. There's a possibility that he finishes as a type B and brings in 1 pick though I doubt he will. Crede had a career year in 2006 and was garbage in 2007 he barely finished as a type B player, he was a few points away from nothingness. With 2007 counting towards his ranking after this year he's probably going to have to have a better season in 2008 than he had in 2006 in order to bring the Sox even 1 pick.

Well this is kind of disappointing, from Rotoworld:

From Rotoworld via the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel:

QUOTE(Chombi and the Fungi @ Nov 8, 2007 -> 11:25 PM) So then what do you think we do? Do we sell high and if no problems ever occur, so be it? Or do we wait for his first struggles so the media can blame his arm and then have to sell low? Maybe we can still deal him in a Mike Sirotka fashion if that were to happen with Jenks. What will happen: The Sox will hold onto him and lock him up to a long term deal sometime between the end of the '08 season and the beginning of the '10 season. What I would do: Sell high, if there's a market for him (which there should be) I'd deal him away for 2-3 very good young players to fill a few holes then sign a closer in free agency. The closer is actually one of the easier roles to fill IMO.

QUOTE(Vance Law @ Nov 8, 2007 -> 11:14 PM) Nice. Know what else I like? What's the difference between Hunter and Alphonso Soriano? Soriano will give you on average 8-10 more homers a year. In the past, steal 10-15 more bases, though he didn't do much after that leg injury. He's 1 year younger. Hunter, meanwhile plays gold glove defense in center. Hunter might be had for $75 million for 5 years. Compare that to Soriano's $136 million for 8 years, and it looks pretty good. He's listed as 1 year younger.

Blast from the past:

QUOTE(Chombi and the Fungi @ Nov 8, 2007 -> 09:40 PM) I'd be ok w/ that gaping hole if it meant we landed a HOF bat. I don't think Jenks is going to turn into Rivera or Hoffman. Also, am I the only one concerned about Jenks arm? Doesnt he have like a screw holding it together or something? We all have voiced are complaint on Miggy's "weight problem" but I am much more concerned w/ Bobby's. I have no problem keeping Jenksy. I love the Michelin man. I do have my concerns with him and they outweigh Miggy's, both figuratively and literally. No

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Nov 8, 2007 -> 05:30 PM) Ahh I love it. More projecting from two months worth of stats. Fannnnn-tastic. Let's note that Jerry Owens' September BAPIP was .407(!). And for the best month that Jerry might ever have in his big league career, his OBP didn't even top .400 and his slugging percentage didn't even touch .375. Oh but right, it's not fair for me to cite slugging percentage because the (whack ass) reasoning that slugging percentage doesn't matter for a leadoff man. 2007 Twins Luis Castillo might just be Jerry Owens' ceiling (+50 SB or so and minus a few AVG points.)

QUOTE(Cleats67 @ Nov 8, 2007 -> 05:28 PM) Sox should sign Luis Catillo for 2B and leadoff. Would come relatively cheap. Richar is not guaranteed the job, so sign Castillo. Plays havoc on the basebaths, gets on a lot, and plays a decent second base. Suprised no one is talking about him. Omar Minaya has pretty much vowed to re-sign him and from the sound of it Castillo likes the idea of staying with the Mets.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Nov 8, 2007 -> 05:22 PM) That's not true. As far as Clement... yeesh, at least he 'bit the dust' after he signed that reasonably nice deal with Boston. He hasn't pitched for the better part of two years. What happened to him anyways? Elbow issues? Shoulder problems? He tore both the rotator cuff and labrum in his right shoulder.

Hunter Interview from Earlier Today

From Rotoworld via the Boston Globe:

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 8, 2007 -> 03:16 PM) Did we ever learn more about his injury issue, though? He's supposed to be 100% by the start of the season.

I'll take Kosuke Fukudome in one of the top 2 spots.

Kenny Rogers is a Boras client.

Where would Hunter hit in an order that includes Thome, Konerko, Dye and Fields? If the Sox added Scott they'd have 3 lefties in the lineup but it would be pretty much impossible to avoid batting 2 of them back to back. Scott Fields Thome Konerko Dye Hunter Pierzynski Uribe Richar