Kalapse

QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Aug 28, 2007 -> 07:47 PM) Wow. When was the last time there was not a game thread on a day that the board was functioning? I've made like game threads over the past 2 weeks or so in the 2nd inning of games 6 games.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Aug 27, 2007 -> 11:52 PM) Mediocre? Before Monday's game, he had batted .183/.213/.192 when leading off an inning. He's hit .197/.228/.221 with nobody out, and .208/.250/.226 in his first at-bat of the game against a starter. I realized my mistake almost as soon as I typed it. Horrific, putrid and dreadful would probably suit him better.

QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 27, 2007 -> 10:13 PM) The most underrated play was a triple Carl Everett had against the Tigers during the last week of the season. We had lost two games in a row to them, were hitting terrible, and he had a huge 2-out, 2 RBI triple that opened the flood gates for the rest of the season. We must have outscored the opposition by a ton from that point forward. Carl hit the triple in the 5th inning with the game tied 1-1, the Sox went on to win that game 8-2 and outscore their opponents 21-9 from that point forward.

QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 27, 2007 -> 07:34 PM) These numbers being thrown around for Hunter are scary. I'm definitely getting into DA's corner that KW will say we made an effort, but the number was too high. We'll probably sign Patterson for 3 yrs, 15 million. Patterson = Boras, however

QUOTE(GreatScott82 @ Aug 27, 2007 -> 09:16 PM) Than who should be the leadoff man? ANd what possition will it come by? And whats the difference between mediocre and decent? So if someone is playing mediocre they are not decent? I like the idea of Rafael Furcal, personally. Hell, I'd almost rather have Eckstein at the top of the lineup and I can't stand him. We'll see what sort of options pop up once we hit the offseason, players will be made available via trade. One things for certain however, I will NOT embrace Owens simply because he's the only speedy slap hitter currently with the ballclub.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Aug 27, 2007 -> 09:17 PM) I personally think Kalapse is being kind in saying Owens has been mediocre in the lead-off spot. I really should have gone with "putrid" like I had originally planned.

QUOTE(GreatScott82 @ Aug 27, 2007 -> 08:49 PM) if it means signing Rowand or Hunter (the 2 names we will likely be after) hell yea than its okay for him to play LF. By saying that, i wasn't dissing Owens, after all he is doing a decent job being a leadoff hitter and we do need a leadoff hitter going into next season don't we? Josh Fields will put up close to equal or better offensive numbers next year than both Hunter and Rowand and for less than 1/36 the price of Torii and 1/24 the price of Rowand. You can hold me to it. Owens is not doing a decent job at leadoff, he's doing an incredibly mediocre one. And under no circumstances should be be the leadoff man for the 2008 White Sox.

QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ Aug 27, 2007 -> 03:32 PM) If he is the leftfielder next season, he will be pulled if winning in close/late situations. I sure as hell hope not, believe it or not but bullpens -- especially those as terrible as the White Sox's -- often blow leads. You don't take one of your best hitters out of the lineup in the top of the 8th because he's inexperienced defensively. So is Fields a terrible defensive LF now? I didn't realize such judgments could be made after only 2 games.

Att: 37,030 Gotta love it.

QUOTE(daa84 @ Aug 27, 2007 -> 03:18 PM) assuming fields plays Lf for the rest of the season as ozzie said, i dont have any problem with it...its not like missing an inning or two is gonna stunt his development out there Assuming he's going to be playing LF every day next season, it would be nice for him to get some experience playing the position in close and late situations. What's the downside to leaving him out there?

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Aug 27, 2007 -> 03:15 PM) I'd assume defensive purposes @ the end of the game? That's f***ing retarded if true.

So why exactly was Fields taken out of the game?

He's also capable of playing SS.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Aug 27, 2007 -> 01:29 PM) In 20 years he'll still be playing. Well, he'll be 43 and in shouting distance of A-Rod's career HR record as well as Henderson's SB record and Cy Young's Wins record so I suppose it's understandable.

Rosenthal has priced Hunter at $18M a year citing Veron Wells' (7 yrs, $126M) and Ichiro Suzuki's (5 yrs, $90M) monster deals as precedent.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Aug 27, 2007 -> 08:13 AM) But I mean even a not 100% healthy Joe Crede is going to put up better numbers then that. He's averaged around an .800 OPS before this season over the last 2, so his numbers weren't too shabby. Joe Crede averaged an .800 OPS over the past 2 seasons in the same sense that Bronson Arroyo averaged a 3.85 ERA over the '05/'06 seasons -- mediocre for the 1st year and playing way above his career averages in year 2 -- 4.51 ERA/3.29 ERA. Crede hit .250 with no OBP and a little power in '05 but upped his OPS 70 points last season. It's fun and all to say he's averaged a .796 OPS over the past 2 seasons but that's incredibly misleading seeing as how he was mediocre in '05. There's really no reason to believe that if Crede is retained for next season that he'll put up anything better than a .750 OPS.

Drew and Dye have both homered (solo shots) and Richar just flew out to the track in LF. Fields has yet to have a ball hit to him in left. eggciting beisbol gam

QUOTE(rangercal @ Aug 26, 2007 -> 01:32 PM) I Who?

QUOTE(Soxfest @ Aug 26, 2007 -> 11:56 AM) So Sweeney willl not get a look see in LF? He sure as hell doesn't deserve one.

Brendon has always been a freak of nature it's not like he just blew up this past offseason.

QUOTE(hitlesswonder @ Aug 26, 2007 -> 10:08 AM) I think Vizquel is starting on the Sox next season. Kenny acquires the players he wants -- sometimes several years too late. Giants of the AL without all the young pitching. That is indeed the likely future. Either Vizquel or Eckstein will be at short and leading off, I'm sure of it. This is going to be a very long offseason.

According to the Score Fields will be in LF for the rest of the season.

I'm going to be so f***ing pissed if they go out and sign Vizquel. He seriously needs to retire, he'll be 41 next year and has been absolutely dreadful this season. John McDonald who is a terrible hitter, one of the worst you will ever see would be a better option, at least he'd only cost about a million dollars.

I wouldn't give Hunter any more than 4 years guaranteed let alone 6.

Owens would provide some very nice speed off the bench while acting as the backup CF.