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Cleveland's gonna win so it'd be much appreciated if we could get McCarthy a run or two.

A.J. has good taste.

QUOTE(Balance @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 12:48 PM) I know how much you Republicans love Al Franken, but if you're looking for countless examples of Bill O'Liely -- excuse me, O'Reilly lying, read Lies, and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them. Every O'Reilly lie Franken points out is dutifully researched and cited in the book. Quite an entertaining read. I'm a Republican and I don't mind reading Al Franken, in fact I have a book of him.

OK I'll read them.

My favorite movie Cool Runnings didn't have any quotes in there. "Feel the rhythm...feel the rhyme...get on board....it's bobsled time!" But my favorite Cool Runnings quote and my favorite movie quote of all time is this. "Derice, a gold metal is a wonderful thing. But if you're not good enough without it, you will never be good enough with it."

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I extremely dislike Travis Halfner.

QUOTE(KipWellsFan @ Sep 21, 2005 -> 08:58 PM) Okay back to the topic at hand, do you hate Bill O'Reilly's penchant for lying? If you show me more proof maybe. I know he goes overboard and stretches the truth, so I guess I'll say I don't hate it but don't like it.

QUOTE(KipWellsFan @ Sep 21, 2005 -> 08:52 PM) What are we talking about here, didn't they ask for more inspector time before the conflict? The way Balta said it was it sounded like this was just recently so that's where I was going.

QUOTE(KipWellsFan @ Sep 21, 2005 -> 08:40 PM) Fact is France never would have gone in there. When I brought up Russia and China earlier I meant why aren't you boycotting them because they are responsible for some messed up s*** as well. What makes France more worth boycotting when Russia is anti-democratic and China is a human rights abuser and also anti-democratic. Priorities seem all out of whack. My priorites are not out of whack that's an opinion which I think the same of yours while I'm sure you don't think they are so let's cut that out. And I try my very best to only buy American products. It's hard since China has a lot of products here. And I do have 1 hat made from Russia.

QUOTE(KipWellsFan @ Sep 21, 2005 -> 08:44 PM) Huh? Why should France have any say in the matter if they're not part of the conflict?

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Sep 21, 2005 -> 08:38 PM) Of course, let's also not forget that France's last request to Mr. Bush was for 1 more month for the inspectors to do their work and try to find the WMD that Mr. Bush insisted were there but the inspectors weren't finding. Mr. Bush refused. It goes both ways, the US requests France to join and France denies, so why should Bush listen to a country that's not even involved in the conflict?

QUOTE(KipWellsFan @ Sep 21, 2005 -> 08:29 PM) Like George? I'm just not seeing this connection between France and China and Russia, where does Canada or Germany fit in to all of this? Did anyone really expect France to enter into this War, especially with a Republican president, their population would have fried Chirac had they gone to war and were still stuck there. Not to mention their oil for food interests as ss mentioned. I wasn't the one who brough China and Russia into this. I love your George comment though. I've just been saying the if France went into this, China and Russia would also have. You need all 5 in the UN to agree right? Well it was 2 vs 3 and if France would've been on the same side as the USA and Britain, China and Russia would've came in too.

QUOTE(KipWellsFan @ Sep 21, 2005 -> 08:22 PM) Huh? And in the next sentence you say France has no clout left? I said France was a shadow of what they used to be. They'll obviously have clout if they're one of the 5 permanant seats in the United Nations. Their stubborness will never change. Just like anyone else that's stubborn.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Sep 21, 2005 -> 08:13 PM) China and Russia both had absolutely no interest in being part of the Iraq war. They had no preference, they would've gone in had France gone in.

QUOTE(KipWellsFan @ Sep 21, 2005 -> 07:52 PM) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_war_1 What is your point here, what does France being helped by the United States apply today, cause they didn't support the Iraq War? Why are you boycotting France of all countries, do you boycott China, or Russian products? China and Russia would've gone in if France went in. All France is now is just a shadow of what it used to be. France was the frontrunner in not supporting the Iraqi conflict.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Sep 21, 2005 -> 07:43 PM) The line is "Lafayette, we are here". It was said by general George Pershing upon his arrival. 2nd point...so are you alleging that the French only declared war because they hated the British, but our motives when we declared war on Germany was that we were so friendly with the French, and not Germany's unrestricted submarine warfare resumption in early 1917, the cable they sent to Mexico (over a U.S. owned telegraph line) offering them the return of the territories they lost to the U.S., or the sinking of passenger liners like the Lusitania (which was carrying arms for the British). So why is it that France declares war on Britain it's because the French hate the British, but when the U.S. declares war on Germany, it's not because we're angry at the Germans? Actually it was the British that intercepted that telegraph. But I see you're in California, which would mean you'd be part of Mexico right? And I have no clue as to where you're trying to go with comparing World Wars to the Revolutionary War.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Sep 21, 2005 -> 07:43 PM) The line is "Lafayette, we are here". It was said by general George Pershing upon his arrival. Close enough, they get my point, thanks for the quote I was too lazy to get my U.S. History notebook, lol.

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QUOTE(KipWellsFan @ Sep 21, 2005 -> 07:34 PM) Would the US have come to the rescue and helped Britain, Canada and the rest of the allies save France had it not been for Pearl Harbour? Please answer my question from before. Dude, Roosevelt wanted to get into the war but the people of America didn't want to. Give me a response about World War I when America came to save France please.

QUOTE(KipWellsFan @ Sep 21, 2005 -> 04:39 PM) You actually think France lost money because of Bill O'Reilly? Yes I do. I used to buy French products since I was in high school band. Then I stopped my Junior year, sure it isn't a whole lot, maybe a hundred bucks. As far as you and persistance about getting a reason for Liberal media, I can't give you an explanation because I rarely watch news anymore. Whenever I watch it, I disagree with it. The last thing I really paid attention to was Hurricane Katrina and it made me sick hearing about all of it was Bush's fault. Sure help should've gotten there quicker, we all know that but it sounded like Bush caused the hurricane. I mean we can't criticize the governor even though she would've sent everyone out of there, or we can't criticize the mayor because he didn't have sufficiant levees. Of course the mayor and governor were also criticized but I never heard it from people getting interviewed, they only showed ones that blamed Bush for this.

QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Sep 21, 2005 -> 04:35 PM) I just finished reading a great book about the revolutionary war. We'd still be under British rule if the French hadn't come to our aid. I know that was a long time ago, but since you hear so many fundamentalists (aka, conservatives) preaching about the founding fathers, I think it's important to note that they were all deeply indebted to the French. Deeply indebted to the French??? No way. It was great of them to help us out in the Revolutionary War, but they did that because they hated Britain, it wasn't because they liked us. Plus we saved them from Germany in World War I and World War II. That's where the quote "Lafeyette, we have finally arrived." I don't know who said that but it was in World War I. If it wasn't for us, they wouldn't be a country either.

QUOTE(JoshPR @ Sep 20, 2005 -> 11:52 PM) THANK YOU SOX FOR A BIRTHDAY VICTORY Now win more give my momma a fan for 44 years the division ! Haha, you got a birthday present courtesy of Joe Crede The Rally Crede.

I wasn't making fun of Canada if you thought I was. I was saying that I can understand why Canadians wouldn't like him and in another post I said he's popular in America, not like Canada as in I'm guessing he's not very popular in Canada. Sorry I didn't explain it better.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Sep 20, 2005 -> 10:51 PM) Joe Crede >>> Jeff Abbot I think I went about as crazy now as I did when Abbot hit that one. Of course I went crazy 2 years ago when Frank creamed Everyday Eddie's pitch out of the park for the win. And before Frank's I believe slumping Paul Konerko hit a 2 out home run in the bottom of the 9th to tie it.