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Everything posted by southsideirish71
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I am sick of having these soft tossing location pitchers who get killed when they come up to the majors and realize that the large minor league strikezone is a thing of the past and that you cant get by with a 3-1 85 mph fastball anymore. We have a guy in class A that throws 98. KW better not trade that guy. The last guy we had that had a cannon like that we traded and he threw chairs into the stands.
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Kenny will eventually trade whatever trade pick we would of given up away in some last minute trade deadline deal. So why keep them.
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Our Mike Jackson replacement is Felix Diaz.
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How much do you think Clement and Pavano are going to cost with the Yanks and Mets setting this price. Do you really see the sox paying that asking price. I dont care if we got Wright or not. I am more upset at the salary level that these fringe pitchers are getting. It sets a unrealistic and unatainable salary level for the sox. We will go back to the lightening in a bottle theory and hope some C level pitcher can have a career season next year. Thanks New York for nothing.
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Watching what I would of thought would be more attainable FA's sign elsewhere(Visquel and Wright) leaves me with a pit in my stomach. We will need to outbid Detroit who all of a sudden has boatloads of money, the Yanks, Cleveland and Boston for Pavano and Wright. This of course is not going to happen. I wonder what plan Z is for the sox.
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Well JR will need to increase the payroll to 71 million to justify we have the largest payroll in the AL Central.
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After that enchanting lip service from our chairman I feel real good. The money comment has me more than bothered. I see our payroll sitting about the same as last year. I believe we will fill the 5th starter roll. But will not attract a top tier FA. Everyone is worried about the Twins, but if the indians get Matt Clement and Troy Percival with that offense we will be in more trouble. The Tigers have money to spend. This is starting to become a depressing hotstove season already.
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Miguel Cabera came up quickly with the Marlins and made a difference. He started 2003 in AA and then was called up in June for the Marlins. The Whitesox usually take a real long time to promote outfielders through the system. Maybe we are going to be a bit more aggressive with our prospects. I think this is a good idea, as we have seen that keeping people in the minors forever doesnt necessarily promote their success. IE Joe Borchard.
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I hear that Atlanta was going to getting ready to give Leo Mazzone the boot if they could get their hands on our pitching genius Don Cooper
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Walk worked with Carlos this year and specifically worked with him to change his swing from a compact line drive swing to a extend your arms and hit home runs. This is why I blame him. Von Joshua was the one who stated that our hitters were listening to their agents and couldnt resist the power number appeal. He basically called our hitters out as money grubbing mopes.
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Here are the questions Ozzie should be asking: Arow worked out in Las Vegas this offseason. What did he do to prepare physically and mentally for this season. Whatever he did copy it and use it as a blueprint for what we are looking for. He is the proper definition of a grinder. Who will replace Don Cooper, if they keep him on I have even less respect for them. Under his leadership the pitching staff has gotten worse mentally. The pitch calls in key situations are terrible, and no adjustments are made through a game. Buy Jose Valentin and Sandy Alomar their gold watches and wish them a happy career elsewhere. Alomar is not healthy enough anymore and Jose is prototypical of everything that has been wrong with the sox over the last three seasons. Will Walk learn how to teach a level swing to our hitters. He worked hard this year to change Carlos Lees compact swing during his 28 game hitting streak and turned it into a home run swing. Thank you for helping the team with your leadership walk. Here is your severence. Konerko made a comment that without Thomas they didnt have enough home run hitters. The entire team is made up of people who cant hit above 250 and try to jack home runs like crazy. This truly once and for all proves that the collective IQ on this team is slighty higher than a lemming.
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I will be happy when the long looping swing type player has been altered or banished. Watching Joe Crede hit is pathetic. You can time his swing with a minute timer.
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Its nice to see Kubel and Restovich and Mourneau come up this year and look good, while Joe Borchard and Joe Borchard look both like total crap. Jon Garland has the mental fortitude of a 7 year old. He can't keep the Minny B team down tonight. When he pitches like this, he and Danny Wright could fight over who is a worse number 5 pitcher. At least Wright was injured.
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im sure glad we get to watch Valentin
southsideirish71 replied to soxfan420's topic in Pale Hose Talk
SS Jose Valentin is in a 9-for-77 slump. I think this is reason enough to bench mr. porn moustache and his swing for the fences and try to hit it to mars routine. Lets the kids play now so we dont have to see it as a brooks boyer marketing scheme. Through thick n thin is the new bulls one. aka we will suck this year like last year put please plunk down 30 bucks to see crap on the floor. -
I should of put the pudge junior in green. Everyone was all bent out of shape when Olivo was given up in the trade.
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The big problem with Lee is between his ears. He is not a smart player. If he used that long home run swing early in the count and say moved to a defensive compact swing he would be extremely dangerous. But he refuses to make adjustments. Pitchers have been painting the outside corner all year long against the sox. Yet they still try to pull the outside pitch over and over. When they hit to the opposite field early in the game it forces the pitcher to try to bust them inside and thats when they can pull the ball for a big home run. But going up there and watching pitch after pitch because you are looking for a center cut fastball to drive is maddening. I have watched him over and over not even offer on the outside corner because he knows he cant hit it. So he will "tip his hat" my favorite saying and wait for another chance to mash the ball. Its something that multiple sox hitters have done all year long. I have seen him hit the ball with such power to right and right center and it really makes him more dangerous because then the pitcher has to come inside to back him off. But like most of the sox hitters, he stands on the very outside of the batters box so he can extend his arms on the inside pitch and cannot reach the outside pitch at all. Arow is the only hitter really putting together the mental game and the physical game. He spent the offseason working out in Las Vegas to get into the best shape of his life. He is a hard worker that leaves it all on the field. Then you compare that too. Willie Harris. Great speed, but timid in every sense of the word. He takes good pitches and swings at bad ones, he cannot take lessons learned from good experiences and use them in the next game. Very streaky. Great speed but cannot get a good jump because he cant read a pitchers pickoff move. He really needs to immitate Ichiro and slap the ball to left more often and earlier in the count. Uribe. Very dangerous when he hits up the middle and to right. Good defense, and a strong arm. Has talent like crazy, but gets into funks where he gets into a pull crazy motion. This is where he falls over trying to cheat on the inside fastball so he can jack it into row 3. He has come around lately getting back to hitting to right and right center. Valentin. This is a relationship that the sox must sever to move forward. He typifies all that is wrong with the sox. He goes up there looking to hit the ball out of the park on every single swing. I think I have seen him shorten his swing up 3 times this year to make contact. He has a great arm, but his lack of concentration causes him to mess up easy plays when he makes the difficults ones. This is a lack of mental fortitude. Dropping easy popups during critical games against a team you are battling is an example of why we dont need his leadership. We dont need a SS that his 25 or more homers. We need a SS that is good with his glove and can get on base and doesnt strike out alot. Paul Konerko. If he hits 275 and hits 30-40 home runs and drives in over a 100 this is all that you can ask. Yes he is very slow and GIDP too many times. But I think that he could be even better if he didnt have crap hitting behind him. Joe Borchard. I dont even know if he is a great talent. He might be the Brian Bosworth of baseball. He teases with the 500 foot monster shot then everytime the game is on the line or the last batter comes up, he marches to the plate to get overmatched over and over. He could shorten his swing up and make a better player out of himself. But I suspect that he has fallen in love with the homer and will refuse to mend his ways. Joe Crede. Terrible hitting mechanics. His swing is not fluid and is almost robotic. His strikeouts are usually typified by his head moving down to look for the ball after the ball has crossed the plate. His swing is junk speed. Why anyone would ever throw him a curve I dont know. You bust this guy with heat he will go down 123. You throw him a curve that sinks down in the middle of the plate he will hit a moon shot. He is another one that if he shortened up his swing would be pretty good. But he doesnt want to change it. And now actually rests his bat on the shoulder before the pitch is released ala Olivo circa 2003. The Catching position has hit pretty well considering by most accounts we gave up Pudge junior.
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Its not how many times you hit it, its when you hit it. If you think he has been real clutch over the last month or so then give me some of what you are drinking.
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This is also the same hitter that had a 28 game hitting streak going raising his average from the .230's to .300 and then decides to completely change his swing because I can only take that his agent called him and told him to increase the power numbers. My favorite Carlos Lee was the Carlos Lee that hit to all fields, hit with power to right and right center and didnt strike out. He was a dangerous, line drive hitter who had a quick compact swing. This Carlos Lee, the one that has a long looping swing, that strikes out looking silly because he is sitting on a pitch and is too stubborn to protect the plate. This is the same new Carlos Lee that keeps a long home runs swing with men on 2nd and 3rd with a close game with 2 strikes on him. But man he hits home runs. Our team has the most messed up looking swings. Uribe looks to fall down on every plate appearance. Valentin looks like a human fan as he waves the bat at the ball like the might casey. Joe Crede and Joe Borchard are exactly 1.2 seconds late on the 85 mph fastball down the middle of the plate, but they can hit a curveball if they guess its coming like no ones business. Maybe they should try and duplicate Rowand. Nice short compact swing, uses his bat speed to generate power.
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Its nice to see that the WhiteSox bullpen can quickly turn a 2-1 pitchers duel into 7 runs scored.
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80 year old Troy Percival makes Carlos Lee look silly. Its nice to get our number 3 hitter up to the play to watch 3 pitches for strikes, including the I am going to duck, when its just a curve over the middle of the plate. Then he makes a series of silly I need to take a dump in my shorts looks as he pouts back to the dugout. Lee has a ton of talent, however I have a stinking feeling that he has large amount of air between his ears.
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Nice jump Crede.....he cant hit and now he cant catch a pop up because his mistimes his leap. Uribe at 3rd, Valdez at SS, and Harris at 2nd for the rest of the year. Joe Crede needs to sit for the rest of the year along with stone hands valentin. SEND A MESSAGE OZZIE!!!!! "You dont play the game the right way, you dont play for me" Ozzie Guillen at his press conference after being named the White Sox manager. Jose K's 7 times in a row(twice). Doesnt get benched. Carlos Lee gets thrown out(twice) trying to advance to second after starting his home run trot only to find out the ball didnt leave the yard. Doesnt get benched. White Sox baseball, if you dont play the game the right way, you play everday.
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Willie emulates a good hitter for one game and then goes back to crap. Last week he did a good Ichiro impersonation. Slapping the ball to left, pulling the inside pitch. Then the next game, he goes back to Willie "scared of his own shadow" Harris. Pops the ball up, Ks looking or bunts out to the pitcher.
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Baj cant be on our team. He didnt walk the bases loaded and then plunk a hitter, walk a few in or groove a cookie in for a 3 run jack. Nice job by Man Hands. Now if our fielders werent stone handed....
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Its nice to see Joe Crede hit like a pitchers in the National League. :puke
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Man hands puts this disaster of an inning to rest.
