Everything posted by CaliSoxFanViaSWside
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June Catch All White Sox Thread
QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 14, 2010 -> 07:28 AM) Floyd was going to turn it around anyhow. He does this crap every year, he posts a super inflated ERA due to terrible luck (.369 BABIP),but his peripherals are great (with the exception of 2008, he was exceptionally lucky that year). Before last night's game, his FIP was 4.02, after that start, it's down to 3.8, that of a very good pitcher. He's now second in pitching WAR on the team next to John Danks. Everybody in the rotation with the exception of Freddy Garcia has a FIP below 5, even Peavy and Buehrle. There's been a lot of bad luck for our pitchers, however, we're seeing a reversal of that right now and it will probably continue. I know you like to throw that scientific billy beane stuff around but that is just nonsense. You make your own luck when you throw hanging curves and fastball right down the middle of the plate . That high BABIP stuff is from throwing bad pitches not having terrible luck.
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6/13 GT: White Sox @ Cubs - 7:00pm CDT ESPN
QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 13, 2010 -> 07:48 PM) Yes, he does. By my math, the Sox have about $10 million or so to spend this offseason and will have 8+ spots to fill. You offer AJ arbitration, and he takes up $7 million+ of it. What 8+ spots ?
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6/13 GT: White Sox @ Cubs - 7:00pm CDT ESPN
QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Jun 13, 2010 -> 07:41 PM) They are not trading him. Kenny is pretty easily fooled into thinking that any teams is a winner just lurking to break out. A nice little run against bad NL teams might get some prospects shipped off for our run that will never appear. Everyone can only see what's in front their eyes. Most of you act like the Sox are incapable of a turnaround. It's unlikely I know , but personally I rather be wrong thinking they can turn it around then be right knowing they will suck the rest of the year.
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6/13 GT: White Sox @ Cubs - 7:00pm CDT ESPN
QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 13, 2010 -> 07:39 PM) Minus the first pitch fastball to Tracy after Soriano's double. He was throwing 1st pitch fastballs a lot. The difference was he got that one up a little bit. Can't expect perfection from either Gavin or AJ . Some times you just get outguessed. It's not rocket science.
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6/13 GT: White Sox @ Cubs - 7:00pm CDT ESPN
QUOTE (IamtheHBOMB @ Jun 13, 2010 -> 07:34 PM) f*** this team. Can't score a single runner with bases loaded and no outs. It was 2nd and 3rd with no outs. Alexei K'd then Rios was IBB'd . Konerko had based loaded 1 out .
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6/13 GT: White Sox @ Cubs - 7:00pm CDT ESPN
QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jun 13, 2010 -> 06:45 PM) Prediction: Cubs win 1-0. Fixed.
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6/13 GT: White Sox @ Cubs - 7:00pm CDT ESPN
Wow didn't get 2 there.
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6/13 GT: White Sox @ Cubs - 7:00pm CDT ESPN
IBB to Rios all up to PK.
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6/13 GT: White Sox @ Cubs - 7:00pm CDT ESPN
Ha balk !
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6/13 GT: White Sox @ Cubs - 7:00pm CDT ESPN
QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 13, 2010 -> 07:20 PM) Jones is batting? You have to be kidding me. Works for me .
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6/13 GT: White Sox @ Cubs - 7:00pm CDT ESPN
Way to go Pierre now get 2 runs !
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6/13 GT: White Sox @ Cubs - 7:00pm CDT ESPN
2-1 count and Beckham swings at that crap up and away.
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6/13 GT: White Sox @ Cubs - 7:00pm CDT ESPN
Floyd should have hit Soriano with a pitch after Lee got thrown out.
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6/13 GT: White Sox @ Cubs - 7:00pm CDT ESPN
Lee was safe.
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6/13 GT: White Sox @ Cubs - 7:00pm CDT ESPN
QUOTE (Kalapse @ Jun 13, 2010 -> 06:47 PM) This is just pure hell. Look on the bright side. We're not losing and having another well pitched game.
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6/13 GT: White Sox @ Cubs - 7:00pm CDT ESPN
Prediction: Sox win 1-0.
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6/13 GT: White Sox @ Cubs - 7:00pm CDT ESPN
Kong usually hits Lilly hard ,get on Rios and let Kong drive you in.
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6/13 GT: White Sox @ Cubs - 7:00pm CDT ESPN
And everyone else so far.
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6/13 GT: White Sox @ Cubs - 7:00pm CDT ESPN
Ok fine we won with 3 runs and 2 runs lets see us win when we get no hit !
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6/13 GT: White Sox @ Cubs - 7:00pm CDT ESPN
Sox trying to prove they don't like winning streaks.
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Over .500 and within 5 games by the end of the month!
All I know is that if Q and Bacon can put up good 2nd half numbers and the starting pitching gets stronger and the rest of the team remains status quo we just might make a run and draw crowds. Giving up on the team means giving up revenue despite all we hear about getting younger and trading away productive pieces. Getting younger at this point in time means getting worse and I like our chances better relying on current players to improve.
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The Buyers Thread
QUOTE (Lillian @ Jun 13, 2010 -> 08:59 AM) Beckham and Quentin is just too much affordable future potential to give up for Tejada and Markakis. Have you looked at the Markakis contract? He's going to be making $15 Million per year in 2013 and 2014. If you're going to spend that kind of money, why not just acquire a free agent and keep your young affordable players? Because most free agents are older. Dumping MB and AJ and Teahen relieves a lot of salary so they would have to go.
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The Buyers Thread
I never try my hand at this because I'm no expert on every player on every team but Quentin , Beckham and Teahan for Tejada and Markakis. Tejada only has a one yr. contract for $6 mil. so he can depart after this year. Markasis is signed for a while and doesn't get really expensive till next yr. Trade Buerhle to anyone who would take his salary and plug Hudson into his spot. Not that Baltimore would ever trade Markakis especially for 2 struggling players but its possible for Beckham and Q to become very good players again. Of course next year we'd be looking for a 3rd baseman and a 2nd baseman but Nix ,Vizquel and Lillibridge can play it this yr. Trade AJ for w/e you can get and we get even more salary relief. I know Flowers probably isn't ready but have to get salary relief somewhere. We improve RF and 3rd base D get OBP and consistency from Markakis. A platoon of Vizquel and Nix at 2nd puts up better numbers atm than Beckham does and equal or better D. Baltimore is most likely building around Markakis so I know its silly to think they would trade him but one can dream.
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AND THAT'S A WHITE SOX WINNER!!!
QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jun 13, 2010 -> 01:11 AM) Jenks had the K to win the game twice, and got f***ed on both of them. He pitched a great 9th that should have continued to lower his ERA. I agree.Sometimes it seems as if perfection is the only acceptable outcome around here. Even then you'd probably hear about too many pitches and 3-2 counts.
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AND THAT'S A WHITE SOX WINNER!!!
4 well pitched games in a row and Bacon with 3 doubles in last 4 games.