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QUOTE(Mr. Showtime @ Jun 24, 2007 -> 01:41 AM) The choices I was given we're So how'd you do on the grammar part of the test?

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jun 23, 2007 -> 06:25 PM) You're missing the big picture here. Tank is supposedly on his final chance with his employer and perhaps the league. How in the world if you're going to have a couple drinks do you drive a car when you can afford a driver? Worse yet, how stupid do you have to be to be speeding after a couple of beers? With a clean record, its stupid. With Tank's troubled past, and whats on the line, its beyond ridiculous. I wanted the Bears to say goodbye to Tank after his last incident. Angelo will now look and no doubt feel like a fool if/when Tank's test comes back and its above 0. The other sad part about it is someday someone else with the Bears will probably need another chance. Maybe even someone who would actually take advantage of it and become a solid member of society. Angelo won't give it. He doesn't want to be embarrassed again. Who would blame him? I would. "How in the world if you're going to have a couple drinks do you drive a car when you can afford a driver?" I don't understand it, either, but it happens constantly in sports. Ditka did it during the 85 season. Many people I know seem to think they're perfectly fine when I'm damn sure they're .1+. Athletes aren't an exception. "Worse yet, how stupid do you have to be to be speeding after a couple of beers?" I live on a 25 street in a residential area, but I GUARANTEE that most rush hour cars are zooming by doing 40+. It's just the standard in many places, and you get used to it. "With Tank's troubled past, and whats on the line, its beyond ridiculous." That's a big overstatement. It's just ordinary human dumb. Every problem Tank has had in the past has been related to acting like or being connected to thugs. Even if Tank has cleaned up that part of his life, he still might make a stupid 'regular' mistake, which is what this was. I think that's the basic point dasox was making (although I wouldn't go as far as he did) -- people who make this mistake should be considered stupid. But in itself, it doesn't say much more than that about someone's character. And stupidity, even if it's not desirable, isn't something to get this angry about. (Nor is it something that I'd really defend Tank from -- I'm not at all convinced he's a bad/angry person, but I'd never say he's a brilliant guy.) QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Jun 23, 2007 -> 07:59 PM) I know, but Tank was told to stay out of trouble, and he didnt. Im sure the commish doesnt look on this too favorably either, and Tank most likely kissed his suspension reduction goodbye. Now he may have to worry about who he is playing with after the suspension is over. I do think that Pacman is a scumbag, no doubt in my mind, but he doesnt affect the team I cheer for so I really dont care. Tank is directly affecting my favorite team, and i dont like it at all. This timeline of events isnt too favorable either http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sp...-home-headlines And I'm fine with the suspension reduction being rescinded. That's deserved. But if the Bears thought he was a good person before this incident (Lovie apparently did), but have changed their minds since, they should explain why they kept Gilmore on the team, at least. I'm done, I don't want to keep repeating myself. My impression is that the main advice given to Tank was that he shouldn't keep up his current lifestyle, that he should stop hanging around (and housing) types that store pounds of marijuana and get themselves killed in nightclubs. It wasn't that he should not ever make another legal mistake, which would be a pretty unreasonable request. What he was involved in before was something that I can't even fathom. The whole world he was mixed up in was something that the NFL doesn't want to be associated with, understandably. What he just did, if he did it, was something that is seen everywhere. I know many people who've done this (or worse), who usually aren't caught, and I'm sure Goodell does, too. It's not part of that world that he was told to get away from, it's just a general condition. In as much as it tells me about Tank, it tells me he's like about half of my friends, who're just as overconfident about their ability to not get caught when slightly tipsy. My opinion of him changes only in that I think he's slightly dumber than I imagined. (Maybe more accurately, it makes me a a stronger believer in his stupidity.) It can't happen again, but it's separate from what happened before, and if I'm the Bears I'm not willing to cut off someone who has otherwise looked to improve his image for this alone.

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Jun 23, 2007 -> 04:12 PM) I just dont see how the Pacman comparisons dont apply. Tank has been busted with guns in his car, resisting arrest, had his license suspended, his home raided, served time in jail, and now a possible DUI. There is a difference between Tank and Pacman: Pacman has never served time for his 16 offenses(yet). I'm talking about what he's done lately, especially after meeting with the commish. I just don't think a dui is comparable to involvement in a nightclub shooting and avoiding questioning by police.

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Jun 23, 2007 -> 12:45 PM) Do you not see the "being impaired to the slightest degree" part of the ticket? I could give two sh**s about speeding. Its the possible DUI that has me thinking that this is not a problem that is to go away anytime soon, because if he gets a DUI it is directly related to the "stay out of trouble" part of his probation. Besides, wasnt Tanks drivers license suspended? What makes you think Tank has cleaned up his life? Because he said so? Pacman said he was cleaning up his life and was told not to go to strip clubs anymore, on the day before his meeting with Goodell, he was at a strip club. Maybe I should be more clear. I will have washed my hands of Tank Johnson if he is busted for a DUI. If they just give him a speeding ticket, then whatever. But I dont think thats gonna be the case Pretty sure his license was not suspended. Can't we at least agree that, however awful Tank is, he's not as scummy as Paris Hilton? These comparisons to Pacman are what bother me. Since he got his suspension, besides the strip club thing, he's been sought for questioning in, what, two shootings?, a shooting and a stabbing?, something like that. (Hey, I googled it -- the latest was a shooting after a strip club fight. Nice!) Tank has avoided those types of problems. Even the commissioner was impressed enough to be relatively lenient. Tank might have had a couple beers more than he should have when he went out. (It really doesn't sound like he was blitzed, but he may well have been over the limit.) Now, I KNOW it's serious, and I'm not saying it should be ignored. But it has no relation to unlicensed guns lying around his house or nightclub shootings. I'm not saying he shouldn't be punished if it turns out to be a dui, but it doesn't say anything about the changes he's made or not made. I don't see why the Bears need to get rid of him for this anymore than they needed to get rid of Gilmore after his marijuana arrest or avoid Olsen after the rap song. If you think they should have cut him when he was arrested, fine. I don't agree, but I can understand that. I just don't think that this could really make anybody change their mind.

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Jun 23, 2007 -> 09:01 AM) He isnt going to lose his career, for sure. But he is going to lose his job with the Bears. The Bears have, more than once, told him to stay out of trouble. Every time they do, he screws up. Next time he could mow someone over while driving "slightly impaired" or whatever the cops said. BTW, when did it take 2 weeks to find out if someone was drunk? I have washed my hands of tank. The guy doesnt want to do the right thing, let him get out of this mess without trashing his employer any further. Well if the Bears shouldn't have him, why should any other team? A lot of people already have their minds made up. This isn't a reason, just an excuse. Hell, many people calling for him to be cut want it done now, without even waiting for the results. For 40 in a 25? What a joke. The Bears have told him to stay out of trouble, and it looks like he has cleaned up his life in general. This is a mistake, but an unrelated one, and, to tell the truth, a very common one. That's NOT to minimize it. But making this out to be a pattern of behavior, like what you see with Pacman, is ridiculous.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jun 23, 2007 -> 12:20 AM) Like him or not, ol Scotty has some sort of positive effect when he's hitting. Whether it's helping the team win the game or helping the team win a good draft pick...either way, it's positive...

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jun 22, 2007 -> 11:56 PM) Pods Injured. What, too soon? When he heard the news, I'm sure he jumped for joy. So, prolly not.

Please tell me that the admins have installed a greener green...

QUOTE(southsideirish @ Jun 22, 2007 -> 11:47 PM) Why is that nice? Why is that ever nice? The only way you pick that high is if it is a trade or your team really sucked the previous year. I don't ever want my team to really suck. This is never nice. No, I'm pretty sure this Sox team sucks no matter what. Really sucks. So it would, right now, be nice to get a top 5 pick instead of a 6-10 pick.

What?

QUOTE(EvilJester99 @ Jun 22, 2007 -> 09:52 PM) I believe KC just aquired Bradley... Royals Trade For Milton Bradley According to ESPN, the Royals have acquired Milton Bradley from the A's for reliever Leo Nunez. It's a surprising move for Kansas City. Nunez is a 23 year-old righty reliever. He's been compared to Julian Tavarez. He's got a decent hitter but his secondary pitches need work. Nunez has been knocked around in 67 big league innings. He's pitching well in Double A this year but A) he probably belongs in Triple A and B) his strikeout rate is poor. Bradley will presumably be the Royals' regular left fielder, at least until he finds his way back to the DL. If Dayton Moore doesn't spin him off for something better than Nunez before the deadline, I don't get the move. I'm sure that's the hope. Either way, it's a good risk for the Royals. Makes sense.

QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Jun 22, 2007 -> 07:14 PM) No I'm just saying he takes huge advantage of Harris' consant double teams. I think he's talented sure, but he's in a spot to look extra good because of the guy next to him, that's all I'm saying. You do have to worry about depth a bit with the departures of Idonoje and Boone. I guess their eggs are in the Dusty basket or they feel someone can slide over in a pinch You mean Scott, not Idonije (I think Idonije is still around...no?). They also got Adams from SF. I completely agree that he looked a LOT better next to Harris than he would otherwise. But he also looked better next to Harris than anyone else did. It absolutely would be a big loss to downgrade that second tackle position, especially considering how many linemen they put on Harris, and I hope the Bears don't do that just to send some kind of message. Plus, I'm not saying what he did wasn't stupid, but I think these reactions are a little much. Driving 40 in a 25 is a daily routine for half the people in this country. That's not even worth a mention. The dui, if it turns out that way, is of course bad. That would warrant a longer suspension. But I just can't say that a guy should lose his career because of that.

QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Jun 22, 2007 -> 06:20 PM) He got really overrated because of how good the Bears team was. He simply isn't Tommie Harris. He's no big loss, see ya If your standard for a good dt is Harris, you'd best release every one the Bears have and keep looking. No, he's not one of the best in the NFL, but he's good.

QUOTE(southsida86 @ Jun 22, 2007 -> 04:51 PM) After this offseason, Konerko and Jenks will be the only guys from the 2005 team on the team in 2008. Buehrle, Iguchi, and Dye will be either traded or sign somewhere else in FA. Garland and Contreras will be traded, and Pods, Uribe, and Crede will be non tendered. You're forgetting that Rowand's coming back.

QUOTE(Wedge @ Jun 22, 2007 -> 02:48 PM) Remember, after Marky Mark, Steve Trachsel is the #2 pitcher in this market. If we put up Jose, he easily hurdles Stevey-Poo. Iirc, that was just one writer's speculation. And that was only if Dontrelle is kept off the market. Don't count on other teams staying out. For one, Beane's shown a willingness to deal pitchers at strange times.

They were a longshot in any Buehrle trade, so not much changes in terms of trading partners. But it will be interesting to see who Detroit got back.

More on Tejada, from Rotoworld: So much for his trade value. Trying to play through it sounds nuts. Is he gonna do this one-bunt-and-out crap every game for the next month? He said he couldn't swing without pain yesterday. So now he'll just play through it? It's an ugly scene in Baltimore. Edit: Okay, they are sane. Tejada to the dl, the streak is over.

QUOTE(StrangeSox @ Jun 21, 2007 -> 09:28 PM) Let's not forget that its also arbitrarily (have their been any studies showing what a reasonable MPG goal should be?) telling the market what it must produce instead of letting consumers and producers decide for themselves. Well...yeah. Pollution is an externality, so a perfectly free market will not yield a good outcome. The government should intervene. But maybe not in this way. Your post before this one is a good example of how this sort of regulation can go wrong.

And another Rotoworld bit: Couldn't agree more.

QUOTE(ChiSox_Sonix @ Jun 21, 2007 -> 02:45 PM) Outside of Gaby Sanchez (who has tons of potential but could easily flop, IMO) the Marlins positional prospects arent as great as they were a couple years back. Pitching is another thing as they still got quite a few good ones to look at. Also, based on the Marlins tending to usually come out on top in trades I'd be hesitant trading with them. And as for the Mets debate, I may be in the minority, but if theres one Mets positional prospect i want its Martinez, no doubt. I've seen him play a bit in Binghamton and he's got some tools for sure. His numbers dont wow you at all just looking at them but hes only 18 years old! They do a great job picking up the right prospects, but there's not much of a record there in trading for pieces to make a run. They did give up Adrian Gonzalez for Urbina. And this year they blew one trade (for Julio), and then did well by swapping him for Kim. I wouldn't be too worried.

I'd wait until the murder charges are officially filed... Seriously, what does a guy with a good bat have to do to get dfa by Oakland?

QUOTE(iamshack @ Jun 21, 2007 -> 01:56 PM) Then his reputation will be hurt if the Mets don't win it all. People will look back and say he spent all of Michael Wilpon's money to put together this great team- and all he had to do was move some prospects to acquire a Barry Zito or a Mark Buehrle and put them over the top- and he wouldn't do it. I think he feels more pressure than we realize. Whether he has eyes for Zambrano next season or not, Minyana has to realize how important it is for Kenny to get high value for Mark to please our fanbase. Minyana may just need Buehrle to win it all, and I would think ultimately a player like Carlos Gomez won't stop him from realizing that. Minaya. Although with all this waiting for a deal, mañana might be more appropriate.

Rotoworld reporting that Milton Bradley was DFA. http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...887&id=2962 Can't wait to hear what he did to prompt this.

Rock, then Whitewashed. Rock's is more obscure than the Sara Varone clip -- that's gotta count for something. When Rock got rid of his old avy, I was massively depressed...for about 1/3rd of a second...until I saw the new one... That history of excellence deserves some recognition. And after those two, noone is close.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jun 19, 2007 -> 02:57 PM) Because Carbon doesn't come from just a few companies? It comes from everyone and everything. Besides those structures have failed in the past anyway from the same problems. Look no futher than US steel. They done care about pollution they just pay the fines, so what is to stop them from just emitting more and paying the fines? nothing. They don't have to go buy more of an object that has a fixed supply. Take something like Corn, where if you want more of it, you either have to go plant it, or you have to buy it somewhere. Carbon does not have the same physical limitations. If you want to emit more carbon, you just emit more carbon. Monitoring is a joke. If the government could monitor stuff that well, they would have been doing it a long time ago. Hell we can even monitor our own boarders, let alone every major polluter in the US. Heck all you have to do is look at all of the Superfund sites in the US. Well, obviously it would be impractical to control car pollution this way. Which is why it isn't done. But utilities are a major source of pollution. For the more decentralized sources, taxes are a better way to go. The fines have to be steep, no doubt. But suppose you set fines to 10 times the maximum price over the previous year of a credit on the open market? What incentive would a firm have to "just pay the fine"? No matter what they pay in the market, it's still cheaper than the fine. Or make it 50, 100 times, whatever. The firm has zero incentive to pay more than the market price. And, sorry, but you're just wrong about monitoring. We're talking about huge, immobile operations that are registered with every level of government and use a well-understood technology. The comparisons to the border and superfund sites are bogus (although I'd bet that superfund sites are a lot less harmful, in the aggregate).