Jake

System is too thin to trade anything. /thread

I'm not a fan of trading for a starting pitcher at the deadline in general and with the added wildcard slot I'd imagine the price will shoot even higher. I'd rather focus our efforts on whether O-Dog can hold down third base or if there's a cheaply had 3B available.

This is still a club that is trying to build for the future. Giving any non-veteran away is crazy and short sighted...I'll be disappointed if we do it. We need to be adding young players/prospects, not subtracting them.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 10, 2012 -> 04:22 PM) The only reason to keep stewart up is that they think he is doing a better job than those guys would. In fact, it's not unreasonable to think he could really benefit from being a AAA level starter anyway. exactly. He's a starter with a starter's repertoire. There is zero risk in having him start in the minors and there is a good chance that you get a reward in him getting consistent work and using the nice sinker-change-curve combo to his advantage. I really like his stuff, but making the poor kid a reliever didn't make any sense unless we were in "win now" mode

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 10, 2012 -> 04:19 PM) I'm pretty sure I heard the old one yesterday. ^^ and I love that

Hang whiffum Not a bad way to end things for the offense, though

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 10, 2012 -> 04:08 PM) Mark Buehrle's offspeed stuff these days is spectacular, when you count how well he controls it. That's the only way it counts and the same way it counts for Quintana. Command makes everything you throw so much better.

give that man an extension!

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 10, 2012 -> 04:04 PM) Yeah, but that absolutely means if he has a start where he doesn't have pinpoint control he's going to give up an 8 spot in the first 2 innings. Quintana reminds me very much of a young Buehrle. Flat, slow fastball that he isn't afraid to attack with. Offspeed stuff is present but not great.

Tyler didn't look too good on a meaty fastball there.

Hit a bomb T-Flow

Quintana easily has the worst stuff on the roster but at least he produces Danks is slated for 2 rehab outings the last I heard. This gives you a nice long look at the 3 guys going for 2 spots in the rotation.

LET'S WIN THIS MOTHERf***ER

QUOTE (TitoMB @ Jun 10, 2012 -> 03:53 PM) Yeah, the WHIP definitely suggests he's doing alright. I feel most of his runs have come in situations where we were down by 3+ too, but I could be wrong on that. Some have hurt, but that's baseball

QUOTE (TitoMB @ Jun 10, 2012 -> 03:51 PM) It's funny. Ohman's WHIP is 1/3 of his hits surrendered are home runs. He hasn't pitched that badly. Brett Wallace inventing a new way to get a double there

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 10, 2012 -> 03:49 PM) Haven't people mostly complained about him playing too deep? The reason he plays deep is supposedly because he doesn't go back well

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 10, 2012 -> 03:47 PM) GMAFB. Who is going to take the 3 roster spots on the 40 man that for some reason you need clear by releasing the guy? I meant I've given up on criticizing people that suggest that. I'm on your side here

ADA getting much better going back on balls

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 10, 2012 -> 03:41 PM) Seriously, how on Earth is this something people are repeating without being scoffed at? I've given up on it. You and I don't see eye to eye on everything, but the old "disregard talent, only care about MLB production out of position at age 25" thing is getting old. If things were as clear in real life as they on baseball-reference, you'd all be getting paid to make roster moves

Welcome back, Paulie

QUOTE (jeffro2525 @ Jun 10, 2012 -> 03:35 PM) Could be true. Humber could slide in and be the new Stewart. He would be servicable in Stewarts current role. I think at this point it's gonna be pretty damn hard not to keep starting Quintana with the way Floyd and Humber have been throwing. this is why they are slow playing this Danks stuff. See two more starts worth of Gavin/Humber, two more starts of Q to see if he's for real, and the choices may become obvious in that timespan

QUOTE (Real @ Jun 10, 2012 -> 03:31 PM) forget about Youkilis, we need to find a couple starters Found them! Meet John Danks and Jose Quintana

He still has good stuff. As a sinkerballer (which he seems bound and determined to be, even out of the pen) he's going to have a hell of a time being consistent out of the bullpen.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 10, 2012 -> 03:15 PM) Would he have been safe? Or you're just saying the pitcher might have dropped it or the ball might have gotten kicked or knocked away? ball beat him, but you have to at least challenge the pitcher to put his body near home plate, catch the ball, get the tag down, etc

I love PK, but I have to say he's been allergic to hustle lately. Doesn't like running out of the box on ground balls and not sliding there is stupid. Half the pitchers in baseball are terrified to put a tag on a sliding baserunner at home