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I dont believe its over no trade clause no matter how many sources report it. Until you hear, Kenny, Buerhle, or agent say that then I dont believe it. I think its money and years. I think reinsdorf okay go four years but still wasnt enough convince buerhle. Thats why Hahn went back chicago. It was already rejected after he left Tampa. If vasquez was able get one and contreas I highly doubt the guy who was brought up by kenny wouldnt be able get no trade clause. Im not buying it.

If anyone heard score update at this time : It all depends on who you talk to cowley or Merkin. Cowely says Buerhle rejcted the deal. Also says per score that white sox trying add 5th year or mutual option. Merkin says its completely dead

All I am going to say this that if this is all true sucks for white sox orginzation. I want Buerhle back in worst way. I love how both wanted keep things private and yet everything be leaked to public. I never seen soo much leaked to public about whats going on.

Im just going say this short and to point I don't believe the sticking point was the no trade and trust me I believe it's not. I think it's money and years. Something that easy to do just dosen't fit well. Cowely has been reported alot stuff lately. First almost deal with Boston= not true. White sox Resigning Buerhle= False, never happened in past three days. Now he goes and says sticking point is no trade clause= I could only imagine the bs from this. I think it's money and years. I believe we all will find out in offeseason.

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Ozzie Guillen's only wish on Friday was that the entire Mark Buehrle soap opera would just go away. The White Sox manager got his wish. According to a source outside the organization but familiar with the situation, talks between Buehrle and the Sox broke down because the club would not put a no-trade clause into a proposed four-year, $56 million deal. White Sox starting pitcher Mark Buehrle got a no-decision in his fifth attempt at his 100th victory. He allowed four runs and eight hits while walking one and striking out four in his first start since he criticized A.J. Pierzynski for showing disrespect to backup catcher Toby Hall. (AP) The source also told the Sun-Times that general manager Ken Williams wasted no time taking phone calls from both the New York Mets and Los Angeles Dodgers about a possible trade involving the left-handed starter. Talks briefly opened up again after the Sox' 8-1 loss to the Royals on Friday night but quickly died. It's anyone's guess if the two sides will reopen negotiations. Williams had set Friday as the cutoff. It has been one of the more bizarre weeks in Williams' time as GM. It was at this point last weekend that the Sun-Times learned Boston had become the front-runner to acquire Buehrle's services. Not only was that a wake-up call to Buehrle but also to his teammates and other members of the organization, who started working as middle men to get the two sides together. The Red Sox pulled out of the trade talks by midweek when they were told Buehrle was pulled off the block. On Wednesday, Sox assistant general manager Rick Hahn flew to Tampa, Fla., to sit down with Buehrle's agent, Jeff Berry, for one more try. Hahn left Thursday morning as the club was waiting for an answer. It has now gone full circle; no wonder Guillen is drained. ''I don't even care anymore,'' Guillen said. ''I [don't]. If Buehrle signs, good. If he doesn't sign, good luck. I don't know how much they offered. Fifty-six million? ''It's a soap-opera thing. Now I can say that's between the front office and him. When you ask me, I will tell you because it's my job. But it gets to the point where he's here, he's here. He's not? Then we have to call somebody up. We have to find somebody else.'' Guillen said the Buehrle talk had gotten to the point where too many other topics were being ignored. ''I have a couple guys,'' Guillen said. ''It's not fair for me, either, to talk about Buehrle when I also have [free agents Jermaine Dye], [Tadahito] Iguchi, more guys run into the same situation. ''With Buehrle or without Buehrle, this organization is still going on. We'll still continue to play. We might be a worse pitching staff, or better pitching staff, but we got to move on. But we're not going to see him every day, ask Buehrle, 'Are they going to sign you?' and get excited.'' So why were so many people fighting for this, doing all they could to keep the southpaw in the organization he grew up in? ''I think it just says something about the guy,'' first baseman Paul Konerko said of Buehrle. ''There's a lot of people taking up for him because they want him around. No one wants to see him go anywhere, none of us do. ''If you own a team ... you get to run it the way you want to run it. We're just all kind of crossing our fingers that somehow, one way or the other, it collides to where what's best for the team fits him into it.''

KANSAS CITY -- Mark Buehrle has made abundantly clear his intentions to stay a part of the White Sox organization for next year and many years to come. Both general manager Ken Williams and manager Ozzie Guillen have talked about their left-handed ace as one of the White Sox favorite sons -- for his contributions on the field, in the clubhouse and everywhere else. But when asked prior to Friday's series opener against the Royals for any news concerning the ongoing contract extension talks involving Buehrle and the team, Guillen put forth a smile indicating that he had reached his saturation point on this topic. That point was reached by Buehrle himself two or three days ago. "It's a soap-opera thing," said Guillen of the contract talks. "Now, I can say that's between the front office and him. When you ask me, I will tell you, because it's my job. But it gets to the point where if he's here, he's here. "If he's not, then we have to call somebody up. We have to find somebody. If he's here, I'll be penciling him in every five days. If he's not here, we will be watching him and the way he pitches." Buehrle sat and played cards with his teammates on Friday afternoon, upbeat and seemingly unaffected by his contractual limbo, which should be decided by Monday at the latest. Monday also marks the start of the White Sox final homestand before the All-Star break and Buehrle's next start against Erik Bedard and the Orioles. Once the Buehrle negotiations are concluded, the media onus might then be placed upon Jermaine Dye and Tadahito Iguchi -- both important pieces to the White Sox and free-agents-to-be after the 2007 season. With their situations in mind, Guillen doesn't want to make it seem as if Buehrle's presence is more important than the other two because of the constant talk dealing with his starter. "You need people, but it's not necessary to have everybody," Guillen said. "With Buehrle or without Buehrle, this organization is still going on. We'll still continue to play. "We might be a worse pitching staff or better pitching staff, but we got to move on. We're not going to see him every day, ask Buehrle, 'Are they going to sign you?' and get excited." After pausing, Guillen said with a smile, "That's between the White Sox and Buehrle. I should be talking about my contract." Part of the family: Other individuals outside of Jeff Berry, Buehrle's agent, and Williams getting involved to facilitate the process to keep the southpaw in Chicago is a testament to the family feel around this particular organization. But as team captain Paul Konerko pointed out on Friday, it has a great deal to do with Buehrle's impact. "It just says something about the guy," Konerko said. "There's a lot of people taking up for him, because they want him around. No one wants to see him go anywhere, none of us do. "I also understand the team's position, where if you run a business or you own a team and run a team, you get to run it the way you want to run it. We're just all kind of crossing our fingers that somehow, one way or the other, it collides to where what's best for the team fits him into it. "All I can tell you and anybody out there is that Mark doesn't want to go. He wants to stay here. He's trying his best, but we'll see. It's a coin flip right now, it really is."

guy says he works for sun-times

someone on the whitesoxinteractive reported that buerhle camp rejected sox offer and sox will continue to look trade him

i didnt mean stir up a ichrio talk but what I was saying if we spend all money buerhle how will that effect our offseason? I mean we going bring back pods? erstad? what about uribe? the bullpen? If floyd keep up what he is doing just saying he could take buerhles place

let me bring up a point say this long term contract affects what we do in offeason... kenny might bring up floyd take buerhle's spot and say sox do long term deal with ichiro

ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. -- Silence may be golden when it comes to negotiations between the White Sox and left-handed ace Mark Buehrle. Sox assistant general manager Rick Hahn returned to Chicago Thurday and wrote in an e-mail, "Unless or until we have an announcement of some sort, I wouldn't expect us to provide any updates or comment." And Jeff Berry, Buehrle's agent, wrote, "Nothing new to report." But two sources familiar with the negotiations said the two sides were close to completing a four-year, $56 million contract that could make Buehrle the highest-paid Sox player annually at $14 million per year. One of the potential stumbling blocks, according to one of the sources, could be the Major League Baseball Players Association, which might hesitate to approve the deal because it believes Buehrle could command more on the free agent market this winter. Manager Ozzie Guillen acknowledged speaking with Hahn Wednesday night. "Everything sounded great," Guillen said. "I was excited." Buehrle bobbed and weaved with reporters before Thursday's night's game against Tampa Bay. "No comment," he responded when asked about the status of talks between Hahn and Berry. Buehrle wouldn't even acknowledge if discussions were ongoing "because I don't want to say anything and get you guys confused." Buehrle said he had lunch with Berry Thursday but said the agent didn't convey a sense of urgency to complete a deal by this weekend. "Would I like it to?" Buehrle said. "I'm kind of tired of seeing my name out there, but that's going to happen up to the trade deadline (July 31) or until a deal is done. It's going to happen until July 31 or even later." Buehrle is scheduled to make his next start Monday when the Sox open an eight-game homestand against Baltimore. Guillen seemed weary of the scrutiny over Buehrle's future. "I told Rick, 'From now on, I just worry about the White Sox.' It seems like we just worry about one guy. We have a couple of free agents and we only talk about one guy. Obviously, he's the one everybody wants. But I'd like to stay away. Good or bad, I have to deal with it. I hope it's more good than bad. If it's bad, we have to move on. Like I say, it's not an easy thing to do." Buehrle is under consideration for the All-Star Game on the basis of his 3.33 ERA in 15 starts. But he said he hasn't thought about being selected, and his pregnant wife Jamie is expecting the couple's first child at the end of July.

update on buerhle The White Sox have a full house in attendance on a warm summer night for the start of the final homestand before the All-Star break. Coming off a successful road trip to Florida and Kansas City, Mark Buehrle takes the mound to begin this eight-game stretch in Chicago. But, before Buehrle throws his first pitch, a video montage of his career highlights pops up on the center field Jumbotron and a dramatic announcement follows regarding the White Sox and their ace hurler agreeing to a new long-term deal. Many short-term wishes for the ardent South Side supporters would be immediately fulfilled. Of course, this above scenario stands as completely and totally steeped in the hypothetical. When Buehrle was asked on Thursday evening about the reality of the contract talks going on between his agent, Jeff Berry, and White Sox assistant general manager Rick Hahn, talks manager Ozzie Guillen said "sounded great" when he was informed late Wednesday night, Buehrle gave the media the silent treatment with a smile. "No comment. No comment on any contract situation," said Buehrle, one day after rumors swirled that he was close to agreeing to a four-year deal, worth somewhere in the range of $50 million. "I don't want to say anything and get you guys confused. "Call Rick. Call Jeff. Call Kenny," Buehrle added. Berry said via e-mail on Thursday night, "There was nothing new to report." Also reached through e-mail, Hahn reiterated the company policy that unless or until the organization has an announcement of some sort, he "wouldn't expect us to provide any updates or comment." Hahn returned to Chicago, after flying to Florida on Wednesday, not necessarily indicating if a deal had been reached or both sides had hit another impasse. Speculation has centered on this deal needing to be agreed upon by Friday, or this weekend, at the latest, in order for general manager Ken Williams to move forward with his plans for this underachieving team around the July 31 non-waiver deadline. But after having lunch with his agent on Thursday, Buehrle said he wasn't aware of any arbitrary deadline. "I'm kind of tired of seeing my name out there, but that's going to happen until the trade deadline or until a deal is done," Buehrle said. "It's going to happen until July 31 or even later. "I read somewhere that Kenny said that it had to be done by Friday, but I haven't been told anything. I don't know what that means anyway."

If we lose Mark, yes its going to be very tough. But, we all know this is business and if we get trade fix some of our problems then im all for it. Buerhle fixes on problem and thats starter in rotation. But, signing him large contract means will have trouble fixing other problems as well. What will our outfield be next year? Bring back Pods? Bring back Erstad? Who will be right fielder? Will Joe crede be ready for next year? Who will be playing second base? We still going keep Uribe, which I hear everyday that we need get rid of him. Our bullpen, what are you going to do with that? We all know that bullpen has been very big letdown. Another thing bring up if we do sign buerhle to big contract, does that mean no big free agency splashes? There are alot problems other than just resigning Buerhle here. I just hope that somehow it will all work out with Buerhle. If not, then I hope Kenny can pull his magic off like in 2005.

of course their talking... hmmm the agent for Buerhle hes been there, sox send assistant to flordia, rumors heating up about what is going on all over chicago specualting about what could happened. This isnt going to die down. So this might be going on for awhile

ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. -- The ongoing tale of Mark Buehrle and whether he's staying with the White Sox via a new, multi-year contract or leaving soon via a trade sort of has become like the old saying concerning the weather in Chicago. If you don't like what you are hearing now about Buehrle's situation, wait a few hours because it seemingly will change. Buehrle's saga began this past weekend, when an article in the Sun-Times indicated how Boston had emerged as the frontrunner for Buehrle's services and how contract talks had been exhausted between Buehrle and the White Sox. By Wednesday morning, WSCR 670 AM, the White Sox flagship radio station, was reporting a new multi-year deal as close to being agreed upon between the two sides. This particular report would not be confirmed by the team, although general manager Ken Williams did confirm via e-mail that assistant general manager Rick Hahn was on his way to Tampa. "There's no official announcement," a White Sox team spokesman said earlier on Wednesday. "Anything else is speculation." According to The Score's speculation, the deal Buehrle and the White Sox were on the verge of agreeing to covered four years, at $50 million. Another source close to the situation said an option year also could be added. At $12.5 million per year, Buehrle would seem to be a true bargain for the White Sox. The team signed Javier Vazquez to a three-year, $34.5 million extension during Spring Training, while the open market last offseason delivered a five-year, $55 million deal to Gil Meche and a four-year, $40 million deal to Ted Lilly. Buehrle's body of work arguably is more impressive than the aforementioned hurlers. Even Barry Zito, who broke the bank with San Francisco at seven years, $126 million, has career statistics almost identical to the White Sox ace. Buehrle has never made his desire to stay in Chicago a secret, as well as finishing his career with the only team he has ever known. It's a sentiment shared by Buehrle's wife, Jamie, with the couple expecting its first son at the end of July. Accepting a contract at what is perceived as less than true fair market value could draw criticism from the Major League Baseball Players Association. But White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen made it clear during his pregame chat on Wednesday that Buehrle doesn't have to answer to anyone but himself and his family. "That's his deal," said Guillen of Buehrle's contract talks. "Like I say, the Players Association and the agents and the system, let's put it this way, the system, they don't care about you. You just worry about what's best for your family. "When I left Chicago [as a player], I was upset with the White Sox because I wanted to stay here because of my family. I wanted the best for my family and my kids to go to school there. I wanted my kids to grow up in Chicago. Everything is all about how your family is going to live. "Like I told Mark a few minutes ago, I'm your friend but I work for this organization," Guillen added. "I want to work the best I can for both sides. No matter what decision you are going to make, I respect that decision. I respect it as a man." Williams was grilled for close to 30 minutes prior to Sunday's series finale against the Cubs concerning possible moves he could make to change the current negative results coming from his team. With Buehrle bouncing back from a rough finish to the 2006 season, including his no-hitter on April 18, and the White Sox sitting 12 games out of a playoff spot entering Wednesday's contest, the free-agent-to-be after the 2007 season immediately became the most important bargaining chip on the open market. Basically, Williams didn't want to trade Buehrle or didn't necessarily have to trade Buehrle, for that matter, if his asking price wasn't met. And Williams "asked for the moon," according to one source. From the general manager's own account, moving Buehrle would have a far greater impact than simply a business move. "It will be more difficult personally than from a business perspective -- a lot more difficult personally," said Williams on Sunday. "Because I like the man and I like his wife. "I've sat with his mother and father. It was just last week he showed me the ultrasound of his baby. Yeah, it will be more difficult. Baseball-wise, you've got to do what you've got to do sometimes. "Like I said, it still has to be something that, with anybody out there, it's got to be something that makes sense for us, both in the short term and the long term before we go down the road," Williams added. "It's not a given that will happen." Deciding Buehrle's fate with the White Sox would have to happen soon, by the end of this current road trip, according to Guillen. If Buehrle indeed signs an extension, the White Sox would then probably move another veteran hurler such as Jose Contreras or Vazquez. Contreras has a no-trade clause, which he said he would wave on Wednesday, and Vazquez has a limited no-trade clause. While Jeff Berry, Buehrle's agent, said there was nothing new to report as of Wednesday afternoon and didn't know where all the talk of the impending deals was coming, that talk could change soon if the last week has shown anything where Buehrle's situation is concerned. "Mark [does not] want to leave," Guillen said. "If Mark [wants] to leave, he will say, 'I'll pitch my 10 games and go to the market and make my money.' [is] ee going to stay? We don't know. [is] he going to leave? I hope not." As for Buehrle, the possible new deal could come just a few weeks ahead of the birth his first child. Buehrle recently told MLB.com that his impending family addition didn't cause him to have any more in-depth talks with Williams about speeding up the trade process to get his family settled. "I can't really say, 'If you are going to trade me, trade me before she is due or after she is due,'" said Buehrle recently with a smile. "We didn't plan it too good, probably the worst time of the year, either now or during the World Series. We have to deal with it."

nothing is going on at all. All the raido stations with this source this and that source this. Nothing happened no deal as of right now.

who knows what is going on? did buerhle lie? no, because no deal has been done. Could it be done soon? who knows.

nothing has happened maybe later tonight or few days will be filled in

if he stays great, but if we trade him and get alot in return great as well. Remember this Buerhle might bring alot in return fix alot problems this team has.

QUOTE(jhart05 @ Jun 26, 2007 -> 08:57 PM) The Crew will not trade any of the young infield, Hart, or Yovani. Melvin won't give up the future for half a season. Some of us Brewer fans can see past this year, to what this team can become. So if they don't make a move to "guarantee" the fans a playoff win this year, I'm fine with it. I can't speak for "the sky is falling" type of idiot fan, thou. They are probably going to put Yovani in the pen now, to save the majority of his innings for starts in late August and September. I don't really think they need another starter. Villanueva can also start if needed. Melvin said he was not interested in Buehrle anyway. I believe him. If anything I would say he is looking for a lefty in the pen and a replacement for Mench, but neither is crucial, imo. You probably should look at some other teams. lets see we go off what we hear in newspapers and everything else. I didnt know you the gm of your team

people nothing has happened so breathe... might not even be boston hes going to

two raido hosts on score said " I have feeling buerhle is not on that charter"

theirs report on whitsoxinteractive.com in " whats the score" saying raido staions in boston saying boston close deal with buerhle. which no on elese knows but this guy so ya their is message from one guy who says he knows this. yet, no one elses does.

just relax guys nothing has happened and when it does you will hear about it trust me

time for new slogan" hey these kids can play" times start bringing this back with basically whole minor league in the lineup time for new slogan" hey these kids can play" times start bringing this back with basically whole minor league in the lineup