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I would like to get see some younger SS prospects in the system, however. We just have Curbelo. Keiboom would be nice for that reason, but, it's not something you have to get. Just an area I hope we even out in the system.

I haven't paid for a babysitter once. It's great.

Good point, if Anderson is terrible, he's not good.

That's true. I love the west, would love to experience living there. Perhaps I could find ways to have month or 2 month stays. But I don't feel regret about staying. I live blocks from family, and raising a family in that situation is too good to be true. My parents family was all east when we grew up. Among other things, every vacation is just visiting family. At the very least we get to visit the world on our vacation time.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jun 30, 2017 -> 11:00 AM) Good info, thanks. I know that, in general, taxes at the state level are regressive across the country. Is Illinois pension model really that much more generous than other deep blue states like Cali or Mass? They are modeled worse to pay, and now are in backlog that is hard to get out of. Those states also are not facing the downward pressure of outgoing population headed south the way the midwest is. The reason exhorbant pensions are difficult from a state level is when population drops, you need it to drop from the older population. It's one reason I don't think state gov'ts are always the best mechanism for delivering those types of benefits.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jun 30, 2017 -> 09:00 AM) Maybe not that much chaos, but employer-covered plans would undoubtedly get worse as well. Annual and lifetime caps would come back, claims denials would go up, who knows what services would or wouldn't be covered. Fun fact I learned yesterday: prior to the ACA, 88% of plans on the individual market didn't even cover maternity care. We have no idea what large scale firms like walmart etc would do with restrictions taken off. Again, it's damn near full employment. That could smooth the issues for 2-3 years.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jun 30, 2017 -> 10:49 AM) Illinois tax system/rates baffles me because we seem to have the highest taxes on just about everything but not noticeably better public services. I don't get how other states that aren't bare-bones services wise get their funding and why that doesn't seem to be able to work here. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion...530-column.html Issue 1 is pensions. Issue 2 is the low income tax created a hide the ball series of taxes that imo have been incredibly regressive. Property taxes as a result, are exhorbant. And as tribune has shown, regressive. Sales tax - > regressive. Soda tax -> regressive. Red lights? Regressive. Cigarette tax -> regressive. You couldn't pick a stupider tax model. Yet, and the worry is legitimate, if the income tax was revised upward, there is legitimate concern the others would not go away. I'm sympathetic to that. So Illinois as crazy stupid spending state, true with pensions, not so true with everything. Illinois as idiotic revenue model state? 100%.

I hope Rondo becomes a coach.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jun 29, 2017 -> 10:46 PM) At this point, I think it is an ownership issue. Rizzo had a deal in place for Robertson once already and it was shot down. It seems that their payroll is really tight and they don't want to give up the prospects for the Sox to eat money. Yeah, I bet they wish they had that Wieters budget now.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jun 30, 2017 -> 09:07 AM) I just dont know what Joe can do here. If he responds, he is lowering himself to Trumps level(smh, "lowering yourself to the POTUS level" is a thing) and he looks bad, and if he doesnt respond, then Trump keeps repeating his lie as if it is real and people believe it and he looks bad I don't know. I've always found Joe Scarborough to be an attention seeker, and business-wise he won't be hurt by this at all. Like 600 people watch morning news shows on cable. This will surely bump them up to like 900.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 30, 2017 -> 08:57 AM) I agree...I don't think it does us any good to be packaging some of our better assets such as Q and Robertson or Kahnle unless it gets us the PARTICULAR guy(s) that you really want. Otherwise, there is enough demand out there to trade them separately and get additional depth. That being the case, if the Sox really loved Rutherford or Frazier, for instance, much more so than Tucker or hypothetically Jimenez, maybe it would be worth burning one of those chips to get the guy they really wanted as opposed to just some other top 50 prospect. At the very least, I'd rate every single one of the players mentioned above Drew Ward and Jesus Lazardo from the previous rumored Robertson deal.

I'm sure Trump being caught in a lie will have dramatic consequences.

QUOTE (Brian @ Jun 30, 2017 -> 08:31 AM) If AHCA doesn't pass and he just repeals Obamacare, what is the healthcare system we'll have? Anarchy? Hmm. For 60%, probably unchanged. For 15%, crippling. For those with pre-existing conditions who lose insurance, they'd face sure bankruptcy in new system. For other 15%, unknown. The fact that we are near full employment means a lot of the adverse affects of removed regulations may be delayed. Could be hard to cut down on some of things like lifetime caps without losing labor that could be costlier to replace. Hard to remember now but the employer provided healthcare was starting to rip apart at the seams in 2000s due to costs that were getting out of control. The costs plateau'd in 2010s for reasons possibly due to ACA or something else. If they stay more constant, maybe employer provided does a better job of coverage. But, equally likely, the growing cost of labor is starting to cut into profit margins, and they save by cutting back on healthcare. If youa re in a city, it wouldn't be that much chaos. But rural areas will see a lot of sudden closures and go back to days of 5000 people going to a free clinic in oklahoma for care.

Great article. Key part is still he is unsure Cashman would throw his line in with Q/Robertson or look for cheaper options, but really nice seeing a line that thinks that's fair value. Obviously it's a 2-for package, but getting 4 top ten prospects in a system like the yankees would be really exciting.

That sucks

Damn. I first thought this was just the Florida guy who dm'd guccifer2.0 and bragged about it. Pretty interesting.

Man I'd be surprised if Lebron left, even though there is plenty of smoke.

The weirdest strategy sox have had was when we collected a bunch of low k, groundball relievers and put a pretty bad defense behind them. Glad that's over.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 29, 2017 -> 01:41 PM) Or that she was really a highly compensated escort when she started her modeling career the first few years in NYC... Yeah my post wasn't inviting s*** like this

To be honest, it's not the scouting or conservative approach to assets, the number one sin of this front office to me is the treatment of coaches, from del negro, to adams, to thibs, to now Hoiberg. Thibs got a lot of leeway with his players because he never threw them under the bus. Forman/Paxson get zero leeway because they throw everyone else under the bus and then make token gestures to accountability. It's what I'm tired of most. I don't even like Hoiberg, but don't hang him out to dry in the media when you gave him 2 bizarre rosters in a row that had nothing to do with his style.

If Joe Scarborough said something like this about Melania he'd be fired and would struggle to make a media comeback. And that would be the right thing to do.

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Jun 29, 2017 -> 01:00 PM) Dunning has been the best of the bunch so far, I think he's the most likely to stick as a starter out of all of the White Sox prospects. I'm going to wait to see how he handles AA before I give that award to him. These other guys were pretty good in High-A too.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jun 29, 2017 -> 12:34 PM) Given the teams rumored to be involved for Q, it seems we'll have a shot of landing a blue chip OF prospect. Yankees - Frazier Astros - Tucker Braves - Acuna Dodgers - Verdugo Cubs - Jimenez So out of these five guys how would you rank them and who do you think is most likely available? Tucker Jimenez Verdugo Frazier Acuna I'd guess Jimenez/Tucker not available. Frazier/Verdugo most likely. Acuna I have no idea. I assume he could be.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 29, 2017 -> 12:39 PM) Man that crew would be a huge disaster in this day and age. They'd have lebron so they'd be in the finals.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 29, 2017 -> 12:25 PM) Doc Rivers is the worst GM in the league, so you are missing the Clippers. And I disagree with you completely...most GM's in this league wish they could have the track record that John Paxson has had over his career. When his time comes (and I am perfectly fine moving him), people will look back long-term at John Paxson as being a good GM. Even Gar...as much as I don't like the run-ins with the front office and the fact that he is slimy...our historical drafting has been pretty good. 2016's draft got us two potential role players. Valentine & Zipser. Not saying either are great players or even starters in this league...but given where we picked, as of today, that is solid value. Additionally, 2015's 1st round pick (Bobby Portis) while inconsistent looks like a guy who can play in the NBA. Again, not a starter, but a solid role player. The Bulls heavily relied on young players (more so then all but a couple teams in the league) and they were the only team who actually won games. When people say they don't trust this front office or a rebuild...I would say I don't trust this front office (cause Gar is just a slimy dude) but their history of drafting has been very good (and that is over a long-term period). Yes, we had some years with misses, but from a relative value perspective, the last two years provided us with three guys, who at this point, appear poised to be role players (and given where we were picking...that is solid relative value). Who knows what can happen, but lets not act like we've been some horrible drafting team...the Bulls haven't. Anyone who says they have are delusional and has no perspective on how likely draft picks are to flop, etc. I hate defending this front office, but some of these statements are just so ridiculous and ignorant of a long-term track record that was pretty good. Everyone thinks its easy to win championships but it isn't, especially in the NBA, and the best front office people may not ever win one because somewhere in the equation...luck can be involved. Joe Dumars put together an improbably dominant team in Detroit before completely hamstringing it with terrible trades and signings. He was a fantastic and truly terrible GM in one tenure. Paxson was a good and then terrible executive in his tenure, and a fine record 5 years ago isn't enough to keep your job after the horrendous execution following 2011. The bulls front office has: - punched out a coach - Fired a coach for criticizing behind closed doors - Undermined a coach publicly for a year before firing him and encouraging players to trash him to the media - Hired an inexperienced coach from college - Publicly undermined that coach - Overseen a medical staff that has very nearly killed a player, cleared one to play with a broken leg, and oversaw a chronically injured team. Was never fired, eventually left on their own. Fired Jen Swanson after a year though, guess she didn't get on the loyalty train. - Traded 2 first round picks to move into the 11th spot to draft a one dimensional college 3 point shooter who couldn't rebound or steal in college. He was terrible. The two picks were much better. - Drafted Marquis Teague - Drafted Tony Snell - Drafted Denzel Valentine - Overvalued Niko Mirotic, he'll leave for nothing - Signed Rajon Rondo. He was exactly what you thought Rondo would be, except he also turned out to be improbably the most decent human being in the org. So I'm not going to talk too much crap on him. - Signed Dwyane Wade - Thought a team of Butler Wade and Rondo was really good (they were bad) - Refused to go over luxury tax after 2011 losing Korver and Asik for nothing. It all ended up okay though because they signed rip hamilton. - Continue to pay rip hamilton for the rest of time - Let DJ Augustin and Nate Robinson go but made sure that Kirk Hinrich would live forever - Refused to include Taj Gibson for anything, waited until he was least valuable, then traded him and Doug McDermott for 3 players with negative PER - Demanded coach play them - They were terrible - Coach got team to playoffs by benching them They have been terrible managing the team they put together for 5 years, culminating in trading their best asset for a rebuild and not acquiring future assets. It's cool he used the assets he inherited from Krause to get draft picks that created the 2011 team. But he's been terrible since, he's run a drama-filled embarrassment of an org culture.