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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 3, 2013 -> 08:31 PM) WASHINGTON (KABC) -- The U.S. Capitol has been placed on lockdown after shots were fired outside the building. A female suspect has been killed, a source told ABC News. A source told ABC News that initial reports were that someone tried to ram the gate at the White House, and then fled to Capitol Hill. There was a short pursuit, and shots were fired. It's unclear if the suspect or officers fired the shots. http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=...&id=9272756 My initial impression is this might be a scenario where crazy person tried to run through to white house, then started a chase, and police were overzealous and started shooting, injuring civilians nearby. Just my initial impression based off of that report.

So, first reports are a woman tried to run the gates at the white house, which then led to a high speed chase and possible shootout. I'm wondering if woman actually was shooting or if shootout was just police fire (ala time square last year)

Apparently Reid said 1 person injured.

Not familiar with Washington/Capitol. I'm just praying it's not like last december, where we hear of a shooting, reports of a few injured, and then suddenly it's 30 dead.

http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/cvptve/cv...om_homepage=yes breaking now

insane that that is even news. "Major political leader affirms he will not destroy world's economy"

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 3, 2013 -> 04:09 PM) WHO'S READY FOR BILLS AND BROWNS? Easily the two most exciting teams in the NFL I actually am excited. My friends a huge browns fan, and was so down after that trent richardson trade (though I think less so, since Trich continues to average like 1.7 yards per carry). Hoyer has been so fun to watch, and love that hometown angle.

QUOTE (Tex @ Oct 3, 2013 -> 03:11 PM) The ACA was passed three years ago, then delayed until now. (as part of a compromise) The President was relected even after the election was made about "Obamacare". So tell me again why it is still being debated. Was that a compromise? I recall 2013/2014 being implementation dates during passage and dems were worried they'd be punished before it was helping people. Maybe it was to help out the stupid 10 year scoring window so we could have that nice round number. Balta, do you remember?

Jake - White House already stating they won't invoke 14th amendment. Debt ceiling will not be easily resolved.

So you were funded for school by the KKK? -Just getting this in there before mr. genius.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Oct 3, 2013 -> 04:05 AM) Why won't Reid allow a vote on any of the CR's that the House sent them? Because they are attaching riders to things that should be a clean vote. Why hasn't Boehner voted for the 3 clean CRs the Senate has passed? Why has the house suddenly moved to regular order? You want negotiations? How about "okay obama, we'll give you some part of the immigration bill, if you delay x from obama care" That's a negotiation. Both sides give and get something. A negotiation is not "Okay, we're going to take down this country unless you pass all these bills we want!"

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Oct 2, 2013 -> 09:57 PM) Gonzalez had 1 amazing week and has been very blah besides that. You never trade a WR1(and a top 5 one at that) for a middle of the road TE1. Whoa, you are are right. I thought he was giving out 10+.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Oct 2, 2013 -> 09:59 PM) Seriously, just pass the damn cr with a delay on Obamacare and then your shutdown is over. Then get your asses back into session and decide this thing NOW, but COMPROMISING, not saying you will do it my way only, clean, or i won't pass it. reid has had multiple chances to do it, and failed to do so. Both sides are playing politcs here, you choose to only vilify one. Hahaha. Compromising gives both sides something they want. You can't tell me what the conservatives are "giving up" is allowing the country to be funded with the appropriations they've already approved. I have a great compromise for you, Alpha. If you agree to give me $5,000, I will give you not vandalizing your house. Let's meet in the middle.

I don't think the Gonzalez trade was bad for that guy. TG has been performing and he may have had a WR2 that would be a small enough drop off that the increase in TE points was worth it. But I would not have traded Gio Bernard for Alshon. Who may be an up and down guy.

Guys, it doesn't matter that the republicans are holding the economy and government hostage. They were pushed to this edge when then-Sen. Barack Obama said that raising the debt ceiling was a failure of leadership under George W. Bush.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Oct 2, 2013 -> 09:22 PM) Increasing the debt ceiling. remember, that is supposed to be a sign of a failed leadership to raise the debt ceiling. And in that scenario young Barack Obama led a democratic revolt that led Democrats to bring country to the brink of default... Oh wait, that never happened, sorry, yeah, I got lost in your equivocations again.

QUOTE (Cknolls @ Oct 2, 2013 -> 09:22 PM) Nice dodge. How about we don't pass a budget/ CR that we cannot afford...when rates go up how do we pay interest that is 200-300 billion more a year? Yes. Let's ask the bond market without the FED buying treasuries. DONE lets do it. Passing a CR and passing a budget are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. One is funding payments that have already been approved. Sure, if republicans can build a coalition that can pass a budget reducing spending, go right ahead! That's the democratic process. But don't block actually paying out money for things you've already purchased. That's childish, reckless and stupid. As for last part, fine, let's do it!

QUOTE (Cknolls @ Oct 2, 2013 -> 09:14 PM) How much debt is too much? Let's ask bond market.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Oct 2, 2013 -> 08:17 PM) Who do I start at flex? Rashad Jennings, Willis McGahee, or Fred Jackson? Jackson has the toughest matchup, McGahee has been garbage, and Jennings is a wildcard. Right now I'm leaning towards the wildcard. I think I would still go Jackson. Best player of the bunch.

Well well well, not only could the clean CR pass with a majority, apparently it could pass with a majority of the majority: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/just-w...of-gravity-here Yet...still not up for a vote. Why? John Boehner fears he'll lose his speakership. I hope you understand why you are sacrificing, hickoryhuskers. B/c John Boehner doesn't want to fight too hard for his job.

Year 2 of basically 100% roster turnover for Missouri. sigh.

At least he can count votes.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Oct 2, 2013 -> 06:31 PM) GOP is going down big time for this. They will be crushed in 2014. All they had to do was weather the storm and take back leadership. I don't think that's possible after the latest shenanigans. I believe in free speech and such but damn Duke, you could be more compassionate and sympathetic toward your fellow posters. Your beef is with the government and that's fine but the people losing their paychecks are clearly collateral damage. Probably not. Dems don't do well in midterms. Senate likely to flip red. House would be impossible for Rs not to hold.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 2, 2013 -> 06:25 PM) I'm OK with Obama meeting with Congress, if and only if it is to discuss a grand bargain to encompass the budget AND the debt ceiling. And even though I am not a huge fan of ObamaCare, I'd hope (and I'm pretty sure) that won't be on the table for defunding. Allowing for some specific tweaks or changes makes perfect sense, but defunding it or delaying it en masse is absurd, for many reasons. If that isn't a topic for discussion - addressing the full boat for a long term solution - then the GOP can roast on the fire they built. I just think it's a huge mistake unless you are removing debt ceiling forever. Because it's such a ridiculous that what you are 'giving up' is allowing the government of the country to function.

I wonder if NYG will be interested in MJD.