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QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 23, 2012 -> 01:52 AM) Yeah, he's keeping Illinois in this while the announcers think he's Isiah Thomas. LOL

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 10:47 PM) When's the last time a machine gun was used in a mass shooting? has that ever happened? you dont know what a machine gun is. You dont even have to know what you're talking about, just BAN BAN BAN. Statement invalidated due to incorrect punctuation.

Don't come back too early. Still nervous watching Rubio jump.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 07:37 PM) His profession is basketball, not engineering though. He is going to Duke to hone his craft to improve his chances in the NBA, which forces him to attend college for at least one year. Read the SI article about his recruitment. It was all about the basketball coaches, not philosphy professors. If it was truly about academics, MSU & Florida would have never made a list with Duke/Stanford. (And this is not a criticism of Parker, this is the correct thought process IMO.) It's the same principle. Just because he's going to leave early doesn't mean he won't care about the education there.

How would you know what's in his head? How do you know he's not going to keep a relationship with the school and graduate at a later time? When an engineer leaves school early to start a business nobody claims he doesn't care about an education. There is still a lot to be learned in 1-2 years of college, and going to a program that demands performance in academics may well have been important to him. This kid is poised to make millions in the NBA and risks it all by going to play for college, and yet instead of going to Kentucky or Florida, he entertained some very good academic schools for athletes. It is a ridiculous statement that you don't have much to back up.

I wish I could find the absurdity funny, but I'm realizing how f***ed we are to do anything when they are this far apart.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 12:22 AM) It's hard to believe that "education" matters to a kid who probably won't stay in college longer than a year or two. This is a really ridiculous statement.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 04:05 PM) It doesn't, but I would be shocked if a ban on X type of gun would be constitutional. Limiting magazine sizes maybe. But something like banning handguns or banning assault weapons won't happen given the standard those laws have to abide by. Yeah, definitely seems like something that needs clarification from the court. We'll probably have an answer in the next 2 years.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Dec 20, 2012 -> 11:41 PM) Other countries don't have that pesky f***ing Bill of Rights to contend with...if only we could just do away with it! I'm not convinced that Heller prevents meaningful regulation.

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Dec 20, 2012 -> 09:19 PM) Too late. I didn't grow up around guns either, I lived in Cook County until I was 18 (and now I'm back... seriously, what the f***?). But I'm glad the gun grabbers all rejoiced at your post even if it was just meaningless platitudes. What do you want to do about it then? How are you going to rectify your first point with your second? The solution for a long, long time has been, more or less, that if you want a gun go get one and if you dont want to be armed you dont have to. How are you going to expand on that? Be careful, your gun grabbing friends who worship at the altar of the federal government are relying on you to come up with something here. Wouldn't want to let them down. And what a solution it has been! Clearly, there are no examples in the world of gun laws in other countries that has led to lower gun violence. We can only compare things to alcohol and drunk driving, which liberals wouldn't want to curb because they drink and are lazy. Meanwhile conservatives don't want to regulate law abiding citizens, except gays and women.

ugh. Worst place as far as i'm concerned. Too far away to watch in person, won't face Mizzou in regular season. Lame choice!

I have 20 more minutes to believe in the possibility he chooses mizzou as a darkhorse. What a wonderful 20 minutes it will be.

Okay, close the thread before duke posts.

QUOTE (illinilaw08 @ Dec 20, 2012 -> 05:55 PM) I didn't grow up around guns. I have family and friends that did. There is certainly a time and a place for guns. ptatc's use is one that I think gets generally overlooked (farmer/rancher protecting their livelihood). I get the appeal of target shooting. I get the sense of security a gun provides in the home (probably a similarly flawed sense of security to my alarm system - input after a burglary this year - but I understand that). When I get uncomfortable about guns generally are the examples cited above at the barbershop and at the Little Ceasers. People get mad. They see red and don't think. I would rather that, in that situation, the Law Abiding Citizen get mad enough to punch me rather than have access to a gun to shoot me. The things that frequently get ignored in this debate are: 1) There are plenty of practical, reasonable uses for guns in a society (ban all guns!); and 2) Just because you are comfortable around guns doesn't mean everyone is comfortable around them (arm the teachers!). We will never legislate away gun violence entirely. The goal should be to lessen the likelihood of another Sandy Hook. But it should also be to lessen the likelihood of the barbershop and Little Ceaser's shootings. Why that guy needed to be carrying while he waited in line for his pizza is something I just don't understand. Excellent post.

QUOTE (Jake @ Dec 20, 2012 -> 06:36 PM) I'm not upset with our draft success, really. We've had a total dud or two, but we tend to get some value. I'm not upset, but say there are 5 players who the draft legitimately likes and it's a big drop off. I just feel like that is a time where you need to strike a deal and get a potential playmaker. But if we have the 11 pick, I feel like we'll sit and get a starter or nice bench player. But we really need a potential player. Obviously, there have been some great players from the 12 pick in the past, so it's not like it's impossible.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Dec 20, 2012 -> 06:21 PM) *Garpax And yeah, that's the problem. While other teams are finding steals throughout the draft, the Bulls at best find the try hard rotation guys. I actually really like my typo.

Ha, I remember that from last year. Killed me.

QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Dec 20, 2012 -> 04:54 PM) Also, Bobcats' pick protections... Given that they've lost 13 in a row, the odds of them improving enough to be a fringe-playoff team next year (what would be needed for the Bulls to get the pick) don't seem very good. I could maybe see getting it for the 2015/16 season since Walker/MKG looks like an okay start and you'd be adding two more lottery picks. Right. I was hoping for them to be horrible through 2016 and have a high lottery pick chance. I doubt we'll find much more than a role player with a pick 10 or higher, especially with Gorpax.

The thing is, Charlotte might not be horrendous for 2 more years.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Dec 20, 2012 -> 04:11 PM) We put up restrictions on the sale of alcohol and cigarettes, but if you want them, you're still going to get them. So we should tax the hell out of guns and bullets too.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 20, 2012 -> 03:57 PM) Really? In a thread about a school shooting you write things like that? Can't we have a little more dignity than actually wishing people harm? I agree. I have no way of putting it succinctly, and I know saying it like this is likely to offend, but attitudes like that expressed above I feel is a great representation of the culture that needs to change.

although I'm heartened by the sudden attention to deaths involving cars. We certainly could use some added rules and regulations to help prevent the tremendous loss of life each year.

I think this is one topic we don't really need analogies for to understand, it's just convoluting the argument. I have no doubt that is the aim of a few posters right now. From a couple of pages to go, Jenks was arguing against that Heller was making it easier to restrict guns because there was no slippery slope. I tend to agree with him, however, I do believe it still left quite a bit of area for regulations on guns, especially concerning sales. I'd prefer we really dive into the new assault rifle ban so it doesn't repeat the same mistakes. I'd like a hard magazine size restriction. I'd like Colorado's law to be encouraged federally by providing matching grants. I'd like gun shows to be shut down, or force any gun show seller to get a license and be forced to follow new regulations.

QUOTE (daa84 @ Dec 19, 2012 -> 10:37 PM) i actually think what he said is very plausible - the whole thing about quinn saying "I kill bad guys" had to have more meaning to it Doesn't the released tape of brody make it a sure fire thing that he was set up? I'm not saying he had 0 involvement, but someone knew this tape existed, and used brody as the patsy (ie the Lee harvey oswald was just a patsy argument). I mean, as far as i know, only a hand full of members in the CIA knew the tape existed, and those that did know it existed all knew it pertained to the first bombing, not the most recent one. But the CIA wasn't the only one who had the tape.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Dec 19, 2012 -> 11:05 PM) That is what happens when you take over a team that won 2 games in 2007 and 3 games in 2008. In the last 2 years, hes 18-8 and has not lost by more than 10 points to any opponent. You never know what will happen, but his team should have won @ Wisconsin this year. Which isnt bad. I kind of can't believe that you are surprised that Wisconsin pulled a coach from Utah State. Nobody dreams about coaching at Utah State. Every coach is looking for a job at a top tier school in one of the 3 stable conferences in the country. It be more surprising if he had stayed at Utah St.