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I thought this summed it up pretty well: http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id...arting-the-rest

Why was the Z capitalized?

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jan 15, 2013 -> 04:53 PM) Trestman will either be a great hire or a total train wreck...........no middle ground. Go hard or go home.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jan 15, 2013 -> 04:33 PM) That would have been great...problem is...you couldn't really let Lovie hire yet another OC. This is what I wanted to post.

I think it's clear Trestman has impressed in interviews since his HC stints in Canada, but GMs are worried about tying their jobs to an unconventional horse. If Emery thinks Trestman has the best plan, I'll go along. I'm interested to see what kind of personnel he brings with him.

Hmm, was Seattle so well coached that 2 coordinators will become HC?

Sad to see McCoy and Dennison out of the search. Really liked how both managed their talent. But I suppose we'll see.

Mizzou with one of the coldest shooting games I've seen. I knew this would be a tough game away without bowers, but damn this team is full of streaky shooters that all seem to go hot or cold together.

https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/290121495768870912 Very interesting.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 12, 2013 -> 02:33 AM) This thread is pretty hilarious. My posting started with "eating healthy is more expensive than eating unhealthy", we somehow are back there, just with different participants haha Anyways time to go out and lower my life expectancy, huzzah! Maybe it was due to your pedantic arguments and thinking lake and halsted was the same as lake and Cicero.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 12, 2013 -> 12:52 AM) They do own a car. But they have to pass a ton of junk food places. Why dont they just go to the closer easier places? Why do they take the time and energy to go shop somewhere farther away? Because its important to them, so they go out of there way to do it. Yeah? Do you expel a lot of time and energy driving?

I'm guessing they own a car in your suburb.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jan 11, 2013 -> 11:43 PM) Do me a favor and drive down Lake Street westbound and tell me how many healthy food joints you can find along the way before you hit Oak Park. The answer is 0. Do not tell me J&Ds Fried Fish King is not healthy!

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jan 11, 2013 -> 11:25 PM) Not sure where you buy your food but when things like Petsmart come up in the results I have to wonder how good the shopping choices are in that area.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 11, 2013 -> 10:25 PM) Its a pretty complicated subject and it requires more than a superficial understanding of the US post 19th century. LOL

QUOTE (Jake @ Jan 11, 2013 -> 10:35 PM) Django has no chance and it's no surprise Tarantino didn't get a look as Best Director. Waltz should get Supporting Actor and QT has a shot at original screenplay. In the end, though, the Academy hates the type of s*** that QT makes. This isn't so much something the Academy does but most establishment awards organizations around the world. The guy who clearly has a massive amount of directorial and artistic talent and has the following to show for it but doesn't make "serious" films...no Best Picture, no Best Director for you. I don't think history quite agrees with you.

The trib article was updated with Trestman denying. http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/footb...0,7941124.story

QUOTE (Boogua @ Jan 11, 2013 -> 07:07 PM) Just like Martz and Lovie? Turner loves throwing the ball downfield too and the Eagles offensive line is just as bad as the Bears is. If they had the right personnel, then yes, it would be a perfect fit, but I feel like it could be Lovie and Martz part two. Turner's success has lasted through so many teams with so many different talent levels (offensively). Martz's offense worked well once with one of the most talented teams of all time. Turner was the first coach to make alex smith look like a real QB. I don't think you can compare the situations.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Jan 11, 2013 -> 05:35 PM) ESPN Radio talking about Norv Turner and Lovie working together in Phlliy. That would have to be one of the best combos that could exist.

Nonetheless, we were all just taking the piss until larry literal came in to try and act all high and mighty.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 11, 2013 -> 04:56 PM) I think there are safer bets and there are riskier bets. General logic is that the safest bet is to hire a HC that has already been successful in the NFL. After that, you have different theories. Some would say that the next safest is OC/DC as they are already in the NFL and thus they are familiar. Others would say HC at College as they already have experience as HC. But I think most people would agree that after those 3, you then enter much riskier territory. Sure you could find the next Bill Walsh coaching arena league, perhaps you could find another Lombardi coaching some small HS. And this is ultimately why I was not super enthusiastic about the Bears firing Lovie Smith. I just have no faith in their front office. I'd tend to agree if I didn't see so many OCs and DCs not pan out. It appears there are lots of intangibles to being a successful nfl head coach, that we can't put our finger on. That said i hope this is false. Though it'd be great if a great D coach came back out of the woodwork, and Emery chose trestman for offense.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jan 11, 2013 -> 04:39 PM) That was 35 years ago. Should we be hiring people in other industries the same way we did 35 years ago? I'm open to it...and from all accounts, the guy is a pretty bright guy...but usually there is a reason that bright people get stuck working for mediocre companies or in positions they seem overqualified for, and that is because they have some kind of fatal flaw. Just makes me wonder if he has one. I haven't found that any position has proven to be any more of a sure thing than any other one in head coaching for the NFL. Previous head coaching experience hasn't meant much. OC experience, Oline, DC, College, etc. We heard a lot about Thibideau, why was he an assistant so long, etc. Maybe this guy isn't great at marketing himself. But he's been successful pretty much everywhere he's gone. At some point people will find you.

True, they have been too fat and lazy recently. A little starvation will toughen them up, and they can use their leathery skin to make boot straps out of, and then raise themselves from poverty (LOL)

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jan 11, 2013 -> 04:35 PM) More like gifted a win. True, but I know for vandy there is nothing sweeter than beating kentucky. If that were to happen in a mizzou kansas game I would be livid and swimming in officiating conspiracy theories.

I really like the Browns hire, but I'm not a fan of hiring coach before GM. Unless I missed their GM hire.