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we probably shouldn't deride career years. Frankly, in our dominating years of 2000 and 2005 in terms of regular season, everything came together and a LOT of guys had career years. In 2008, a few did as well. Really, for us to win the division people are going to have to be great, not average, and things need to fit into place. Hopefully it happens early. In both 2000 and 2005, you knew it was on right away. Unfortunately 2006 it faded mightily.

Well. Alright. He isn't a top leadoff hitter. He's not great in the field. But, I guess he's better than most free agent alternatives, save someone like O-Hudson, but I suppose that wouldn't work with our infield. 4 mill isn't bad. And he is definitely a lead-off hitter for ozzie, and the more definitive lineup you can give him, I'd imagine the better. I wonder who we gave up though.

QUOTE (Hawkfan @ Dec 13, 2009 -> 11:10 PM) He was hardly in the system. Correct, however I think we are talking about our scouting. And you can screw up a top ten pick, happens all the time. I think one important thing Beckham did was kind of teach us what a real prospect looks like. When we produce trades we think our junk can compare with legitimate prospects with star potential. Seeing beckham made me realize the large difference between a future star and a potential future starter ala Brent Morel.

I'm anxious to see what Carrasco nets and if he signs early or people wait out.

BTW I too was going nuts when we traded Reed. But this was when I was young and tracked our prospects through stats alone. Seeing reed hit .400 made me very attached. Also, I thought Ruddy Yan was going to be a stud. Fun Times. I thought Kenny got fleeced in this deal. You mean to tell me he gave up reed morse, AND OLIVO?!?! THATS TOO MUCH

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 13, 2009 -> 12:26 PM) You're not getting what I'm saying. I know top prospects flop in every organization. My point is that it's mind-boggling with our recent history of pathetic drafts, combined with the fact that out of the dozens of prospects KW has traded over the years that not a single one of them has amounted to anything, that GM's are still willing to deal with him. If I'm a GM, I don't even look Kenny's way. Well they don't have coop to fix em.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 10, 2009 -> 07:46 PM) You mean the deal that was done until Hunter went back on his word and signed with the Angels? That deal? yes, I am talking about similar assertive posts that did not come to fruition.

s***.

I'd let Jerry Reinsdorf pay him money to play for our team.

Hey, I think there was a thread on this before but my internet is awful so I cant really search through google a ton. I'm leaving for BA tomorrow. Just wondering any great things to do. It's summer there, should I hit up the beach? Or are their beaches like, uh, NY beaches. Most importantly, I'm looking at a hostel that's in the center, that's not always the best idea. Is there a better, more fun neighborhood to reside in? This was all rather rushed since I was told I had 8 days to leave Brazil (I can return once I leave). Was hopin the experts could help me out.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 10, 2009 -> 04:24 PM) He'll be signed by the end of next week. reminds me of the infamous "Torii Hunter will be on the white sox by friday" post

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Dec 10, 2009 -> 02:33 PM) We always do this. There were actually some decent arms out their too this year. we always do this, huh.

QUOTE (BaseballNick @ Dec 9, 2009 -> 03:05 PM) Buster Olney reports the White Sox are indeed shopping Jenks. Good to know. With his potential price tag I don't have my hopes up for a nice haul.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Dec 9, 2009 -> 04:07 PM) There is no accountability in the government anymore. There was a time that if you ran on Platform A but got elected and enacted Platform B, there would have been hell to pay...now it doesn't even matter. People have such short term memories, you can say whatever you want while campaigning and just do whatever you want after you win. when was this time?

it sounds like Y2HH is actually describing pretty accurately what those wonderful founding fathers hoped for in our republic. Two chambers to prevent populist outrage of people screaming what they want, at the expense of what's actually good for them. A lot of people wanted the U.S. currency to move to the silver standard, luckily william jennings bryan didn't win.

QUOTE (kwolf68 @ Dec 9, 2009 -> 03:14 AM) Do we have the pieces to even make this deal? In talks with LA, they want Billingsley (among others) and in talks with the Yankees it was Hughes/Joba and others. Do we have ANYONE in this entire organization other than Peavy with the stuff that Chad Billingley has? And that's just PART of what the Jays want. I see absolutely nothing here. Yes, people want things. People often don't get the things they want. I believe there is a song about it.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Dec 9, 2009 -> 02:06 AM) I wouldn't want him anywhere near the White Sox. Last year must have been terrifying.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 8, 2009 -> 03:46 PM) His BABIP last year was .223, which is very, very low. You can say I cheated, and that he listed his OPS. But clearly BABIP was used here on its own here for us to infer that Carlos was unlucky last year. This was the post LF responded to.

hahaha, at first I thought your line of thought was going to be that we´d sign the pitchers that throw at us so they can't anymore.

danks also showed up in our 2008 playoffs.

man, the contracts so far don´t seem to be a good sign.

Interesting, but obviously 40 hr 100 rbi is pretty hysterical. Ryan HOward he ain´t. BUT I do like his bat, and like the outside the box thinking.

I'm in brazil. Internet sucks. Luckily I've made a habit of saving before I hit submit. How fun and active sports talk would be if we all just deferred to management! I'm not saying people were right, I'm saying looking at trade threads and saying "look at how stupid people are! Williams is always right!" isn't fair to the context of what is happening. Look at the time lapse, when people are commenting it is in the first hour as details are still being hashed out. None of us are 'on the record', we are having a conversation, and are talking it out as the details emerge. The latter 100 pages of a thread are never as extreme as the first thirty. Yes, they are knee jerk reactions, but these are from pretty knowledgeable fans who are caught in the moment, and in this instance - the offseason- after weeks of talking out possibilities, when action happens you get the "what the hell" moments. And through the course of the thread as stats and reports are brought in, money is dished out, you see pretty reasonable explanations. If the news broke at 10 am, and we had a radio show at 6 pm, you really wouldn't be hearing the outrageous claims in question. Message boards are just a mass conversation, and when breaking news happens it can be chaos. And it's pretty ridiculous to hold that against people right now.

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I would go and say that short of Morel hitting .400 with excellent power there's no reason to move him to AAA by midseason.