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Kudos to Beltran for an actual apology.

Aren't we all murderers, when you think about it?

there should be a rule that if you land at #7 four years in a row your front office has to be fired.

we never learn from much worse examples like the boston bomber crap.

having hilarious dreams of mlb regulating the crap out of technology and throwing out trackman and advanced tech, devastating all organizations... ...except the white sox who own the next decade because they never got started.

I agree. I hate when this happens too because it tends to help the astros. More and more unbelievable stories come out, you find out they aren't true, and it makes it "not so bad" when all they did was bang a trash can. If Passan/Rosenthal/mlb start looking into the accusations, i'll believe it.

BA our with a top 50. Not a mock draft but here it had Detmers at 11: 1. Reid Detmers, LHP, Louisville Areas To Improve: Changeup improvement Detmers is one of the most polished arms in the class, with solid stuff and good control of his entire repertoire, but at the next level it will be even more important for Detmers to have a solid offering to attack righthanded hitters. His breaking ball is perhaps the best in the ACC, but as he faces more advanced hitters who are better equipped to handle that break, going to a solid third pitch to keep batters off-balance could be the difference-maker.

@Dick Allen I forgot to ask, did this punishment match with the info the mlbburneraccount guy said a few weeks ago?

4. But also did you read the article? It’s logic was juvenile. The same could be said for any comic book movie.

And even he'll still hit like .950 in charlotte.

Typically just a sign of bad management.

Man, it would have been so killer if that robertson for luzardo and that crappy 3b trade happened.

It wouldn't get you much. I'd obviously trade for townes though for that package. Realistically you get other expensive guys. Like you could get harrison barnes and a 1st rounder from the kings. Not a good time to trade lauri.

this is one of the dumbest articles I have ever read. Why did you post it?

I'll take ventura over ricky in-game.

I wouldn't say no one knows, there was just a massive investigation asking all the astros about it. That report seemed to take every effort to attempt to minimize the instigators of it. Had there been a story of players pushing to end it I'm sure it would have made it in, as Hinch's breaking the monitor did. If Hinch had heard from players to end it and did not, it would absolutely have ended up in there. The odds that he did something and it didn't come out are slim, but all the more reason to ask about his experience. The report also takes pains to detail that the players knew it was wrong. Did Keuchel think it was wrong? Worth asking.

Kepler is a pretty massive upgrade over Mazara.

Perhaps the eulogies were written prematurely. That offense is disgusting.

This is ugly. Do you really want to take the side that Keuchel not doing anything was a positive good? He didn’t have to publicly snitch to have handled it.

His was back in November.

Rosenthal definitely unsurpassed in understanding player movement, but passan is the best baseball writer in america now.

I don't disagree with Balta except the part where he should just be hounded for sucking. There is a grey area here where if we had signed a hitter from the 2017 astros it would be more fair to hound him than the pitchers. There is likely, beyond the not shaking the boat and accepting rules being governed by the manager, even more pressure for pitchers to just focus on pitchers and not tell the position players how to play. However, the guy had the opportunity to do a the correct thing in this situation and didn't do it. Imagine had it come out that Keuchel tried to stop it internally, would fans here be upset? No they'd be through the moon that he did something so amazing and just proof that a white sox player is great. I understand not wanting the unpleasantness, which the white sox had nothing to do with, to interfere with the white sox season by way of Keuchel. But if you could isolate that, I'm struggling to understand how the board sentiment could exist that wants to see the astros sent to the sun (of which I am a part of), but also that criticizing an astros player that benefitted (by way of a world series) from that cheating, who now happens to be a white sox, behaved completely normal and actually, now that we think about it, cheating is normal and good. Balta certainly has the maximalist stance against cheating. I liked melky, and I think you serve and then move on. But Keuchel isn't unscathed from this. And it's fair to want shame to be put on him because that astros team did some bullshit.

well, the athletic articles from rosenthal and drellich have been pretty spot on, and what they detailed with the red sox was more limited than the astros garbage can antics.

good for him.

But doing what? What Boston did isn't as severe to me as what HOU was accused of. I'm sure more teams than houston were using the replay tv to decode signs, but houston was giving real time feedback on every pitch, and boston just when man was on second. That's a big discrepancy.