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How are our polished college hitters faring? Is Sheets Rendon-ing yet?

The best players in this org currently are Tim anderson, yoan Moncada And Luis Robert and people are still bringing up Courtney Hawkins

If they did get him at 6 slot that’s like 1.5 mil

His pro scouting was very good the first decade, then the aging curve changed.

It’s an interesting draft for evaluating traditional draft red flags. Corbin Carrol seems like one of the safer Hs bats, but he’s 5’10. Baty is physically impressive, and has that Gorman vibe but is super old for a prep bat. Vaughn is a short RH hitting 1b that happens to be one of the most productive college bats ever. Bishop/Bleday are both the late bloomers. interesting draft to try and find value and ignoring the dogma. Id probably most hate to be wrong on a Baty though.

Mendick man!

The difference is blake needed to tap into his power and people thought he would "grow into it", while ignoring that he was already an older prospect for high school. Witt already maximizes his game power for his plus raw power, so the age is less of a concern.

Right. Like, I have no doubt that Vlad Jr. is still going to be awesome. I think both maybe got in a weird place where they had to wait, then maybe had too much pressure initially to show that and started to question themselves.

Brinson had started to lose some shine from his poor showing and krate. I'm not sure he would have survived top 20 another re-ranking. But yes I think kopech dunning burger burdi would have been worth it and could have possibly beaten the marlins. I would have bet the sox would have had to put robert on table though.

Out of curiosity has Vlad Jrs struggles made people relax about Eloy at all?

Just to clarify my post shouldn't serve to be a debbie downer, I'm just talking about immediate impact. I think he's such a beast he can transform upon being challenged but just wouldn't be surprised if he is in that chris young/mike cameron mold early on, so he'll need to make sure he gets enough contact for power.

I started looking at the pacers depth and then wrote down Collison, hah. Conley et al is very good but depth gets you through the regular season and they just need more defensive versatility from their front court and would be throwing questionable guard play almost immediately. Need more shooting/more athleticism all around. I would like Jrue Holiday more than conley. If the 7th +the salary dumps net either I think you do it, because as you said you could get rid of Porter if you need to. But absent that, I am starting to think I'd pull the trigger on Reddish if he's there. It also just feels like brandon clarke is gonna be a guy everyone says years later they should have just drafted him.

I don't agree with that, their depth is bad because it has a bunch of bad players. Arcidiacano is nice but he's fine if you have a few superstars. The team bulls are building needs borderline starters as backups as they have a lot of good not great players put into a core. Wayne Selden jr, Hutchinson, Valentine, Dunn, Felicio, TLC. Shaq harrison was a good 3rd/4th guard because he has a purpose. The rest, bleh. And you are almost certainly out the 7th to the grizz in addition to needing to shave off at least 10 million for Conley, and that's not assuming they want legit talent which they may be able to acquire for Conley. By contrast, a team like the pacers is throwing Thad Young and Tyreke Evans at you in the second unit. So acquire collison, you are looking at Darren Collison, Lavine, Porter, Lauri, WCJ - Starters Dunn, Felicio, Hutchinson, 2nd round pick, Valentine, WSJ. You certainly need to add a backup C with Lopez gone or you are spending on the exception for Lopez. It would be pretty hard. It kinda looks like Detroit.

What do we actually expect though? Hard part is I don't expect Roberts obp to be that high. I would be very happy first few years if he can be in the .250/.310/.500 range. But if he is only getting .220 out he's gonna have to slug really high.

Conley I still think is really good, but it's obviously tough to narrow down "top ten" when we can't really decide on whether we count players like Harden as PGs. But the bulls depth is very bad. And I'm still not confident that with him they are better than the Pacers. They need some vet pieces like a Jared Dudley/Demarre Carroll type folks.

Well, I try to keep in mind that it wasn't that long ago people were thinking it may go 1. Rutschman 2. Vaughn 3. Stott so that 4 you have up there I'm pretty happy with!

I think saying 3-8/9 is a bit too much. I personally view there being a top 4, with Rutschman, Witt, Abrams, Vaughn, and then there being a trio Bleday, Green, Bishop. After that its kinda whoever you want in a mix of college SP/ early hs p. I think there are fair cases for Bleday over Vaughn, but I still think his bat puts him a tier above and may just get pushed away for fit reasons.

No Ja is not that good of a prospect and it wouldn’t take that. You could get it for this years first and a lottery protected first and I’m not sure I wouldn’t take Barrett at two anyway

He wasn't really hot, though. He had a hot game, and this allowed two days off. Considering he's played every day to that point I was fine with it.

Interesting seeing braves go rutledge.

Id like reports on how people view Lambert's command at this point, if he can only command one pitch and then gets by with poor discipline from AA hitters I'd prefer he stay down. If he can command at least 2 pitches at this point consistently then I don't have a problem moving him aggressively at this point.

I was at the game with my son and had an absolute blast but had to leave I’m sixth and saw very little of it ha

Yeah nobodies gonna bump Franco anytime soon, but also who cares if Roberts number one anyway

Just want to point out I was right when I said Madrigal would have a homer before June.

I think it would be interesting to see how nice of a team building piece there could be with a solid catching core and a 1b/DH/catcher flex. also incredibly cheap.