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A couple interesting items from talking to other people: - Seems consensus is its not fair to remove Abreu. His age plus the fact that every other team could sign him at time makes him more of a free agent than traditional INTL. That and this certainly was not a case of just a marco paddy referral. - Some debate over whether negative WAR should be used to subtract from other WAR and not just be zeroed out. I still lean toward it subtracting from the amount, but at least will consider zeroing out the minor league contracts.

Yes him. I was thinking Dye, but I think there is probably a strong case for Jose over Dye. Even best seasons were comparable, and longevity certainly in Jose's favor.

The positive developments you mention is basically that if you never compare the sox to any successful organization then they don't look so bad.

Abreu is the best free agent signing in white sox history? I'm not sure I buy that.

You gotta hand it to abreu, he really muddies the water here.

Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1R_yaQ3MB5ExjZ9c8Z8BKk4quxB40prLBjKdPSmEZoug/edit?usp=sharing Some numbers I got from spotrac vs. baseball ref.

I have a feeling in the past forbes was WAY underrepresenting org value but I actually think this list plays catch up a bit more appropriately. Like they were way off on the dodgers pre-sale and I think they've reframed the issue better.

I'm surprised that he was eligible but didn't sign. I like the scouting comments on him, but should I read anything into that?

100% believe if Rodon goes to astros he'll become a star.

I was thinking "man this is really bad", but then I thought back to how bad it was in 2015, then the laroche saga, collapse, and then jersey incident in 2016... Usually really bad, out of control events seem to spell doom for orgs. But not ours! We continue to capitalize from the stable hands running the ship.

Yeah i can't figure out the shared spreadsheet. But all negative during their sox years (I took total sox career numbers from 2013-2018. Some had positive one year and horribly negative next). Dewayne Wise Jeff Keppinger Felipe Paulino Ronald Belisario Scott Downs Dylan Axelrod Brian Ommogrosso Zack Duke Adam LaRoche Emilio Bonifacio Scott Carroll Matt Albers Matt Purke Dioner Navarro Jacob Turner Jimmy Rollins Austin Jackson Chris Volstad Derek Holland Cody Asche Jeanmar Gomez Bruce Rondon

Yesterday I said I would actually count up the WAR and $ and see the totals. So interestingly enough this pretty much all depends on whether you would consider Jose Abreu a "FA" signing. I did in this, but it's controversial because I think he should be more included as an international free agent. So, WITH ABREU Total Players (not including 2019 due to WAR): 43 Total Dollars: $254 million Total bWAR: 26.9 $/WAR: $9.5 million WITHOUT abreu Total Players: 42 Total Dollars: 177 million Total bWAR: 8.2 $/WAR: 21.6 million Best non abreu signing? I think it's likely Swarzak, who produced 1.9 WAR on 900k Zach Putnam also produced 3.1 WAR on total 862k over several years Melky and David robertson come in right around 9 million per WAR, so not terrible. Total negative WAR players? 50%

It's kinda funny that if you put reylos brain into giolitos head and vice versa there would be basically no difference.

Awesome! Love that stadium

And 5 inning guys that are actually effective would be perfectly acceptable to teams playing in 2019 and not 1990 like ours.

Definitely

When I was a little girl, we had bob hope, jonml;jhgdghj

Glasnow I think just threw his hardest fastball, and threw 6 straight to abreu all in the same spot before finishing him off with a hook. Jealousy, hey jealousy.

Kinda want Yoan to just bunt so he doesn't k again.

bravo Ryan Burr. 28 pitches - 18 strikes. You now are elevated to the players council.

The rays also have the best farm in baseball that they built during a time that they picked later than the white sox (except for 1 year I believe), and despite having less revenue than the white sox, and despite not trading anyone as valuable as chris sale, jose quintana, and adam eaton.

And this is why KW/Hahn will keep their jobs.

Glasnow FB Strike FB Strike Hook Beauty. Can't believe this is the dude that looked like reylo 2 years ago.

They want to recreate 4 complete games.

Well you have to take into account they've played the white sox three times.