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Initially it felt like it was sitting him because a trade was near. But at this point it's hard not to view it as basically embarrassing him. I disliked the signing (understatement) and disliked watching him play, but he isn't the only inconsistent player on the team but is the only one being consistently dnp-cd'd until injuries caught up. It has the impression that they are trying to embarrass him. Again, it's the type of circus that just creates this atmosphere of "why would anyone who has options sign there?". "Hey sign here we are excited but if you perform exactly like anyone with eyes could expect you to perform and it's bad then we may try to save ourselves by blaming your "Effort" and making you a toxic asset nobody wants. Here's the part where you put your signature."

Well at least we have Eloy. Man Luis Martinez has definitely hit his ceiling.

I'm interested to see Lock as a pro. He was able to put up gaudy numbers due to some offenses he was in, but also had to deal with constant OC turnover. He could be creative and fearless but also had stretches of complete inaccuracy over the middle, but he showed improvement. There was a time where it was clear he couldn't hit any crossing routes and could basically only hit stopped receivers or streaking ones. And then if he goes to Denver it's nice having Scangerello now but you have to hope Vic can keep filling up that pipeline.

ha, it needs more rules! But seriously would be nice to know if you can take a career year or what. Obviously getting 03/04 bonds is worth $5. Makes it less fun I guess too, as the answers would be pretty obvious ha.

I don't think it's anything like this, Bush just happened to be one of many underscouted northern prospects that sometimes slip through the cracks. Had he lived in Florida like Cabera Weaver and Lency Delgado you would have likely seen him drafted in top 11 rounds. Northern prospects have a big question mark, I remember people down on Adell because his like 12 at bats against top competition weren't great...whoops he's likely the best draft pick in the 17 group and showed it immediately. But Caulfields point was more likely that he'd rather be going toward high school position players, because I'm not sure there is much of a difference in profiles between Delgado, Weaver, Maldanado and Bush except one produced off the bat, but we can see how valuable even one in four is. The 80-90% college picks is hard to justify, especially when we have such a large scouting staff. Especially, as people have been saying, these 2nd round college bats. It's a missed opportunity when you can try to nab these very athletic HS who have potential to blossom into elite players vs the second rounders who are often much less athletic and limited, have great bats but may very well be at their ceiling.

Uh, yeah. From that article that you are talking about: ” Bush was clear that the teams he spoke with were told that his college commitment wouldn't be a sticking point in regards to signing a contract. "We told every team that I wanted to go straight out of high school. I also wasn't asking for that much money to do so". He also said that he wasn't sure which team would pick him even though multiple area scouts had been in to see him play. In regards to where and by whom he would be drafted, Bryce said, "I didn't really know. Lots of teams showed interest. I actually thought the White Sox showed the least amount of interest at first".” http://www.chicagonow.com/future-sox/2018/08/prospect-focus-bryce-bush/

He wasn’t unlikely to sign.

This is actually why they may need AD dealt in offseason and re-sign Kyrie

Ha, that was my question

K% at least above 20% BB% below 6% Whiff % at least league average Just showing that he can actually deceive people, that he is not just relying on luck for outs. It is do or die as far as I'm concerned this year. Not gonna wait for a pitcher for 2 years of being the worst in the league.

Yeah, I'll put up his record against anyone in the majors, it doesn't mean he batted 1.000

Stearns has been unbelievable in getting production from acquisitions so I'm gonna assume he knows what he's doing with 2b.

We paid more for Samardjiza. Reds have more depth than sox had in 2015-16, though their rotation can't handle much in terms of injuries. But their farm is much deeper than ours to get depth pieces in season.

Sit down before you read this, but I believe both Manny and Harper are very good.

That's because people are relying on scouting info + performance whereas this guy just performed out of nowhere and scouts are catching up. I hope he does well.

That makes things interesting though. I like Law for hitters, don't like him for pitchers at all. I like BA for international guys, but they overrate college pitchers like, insanely. I like fangraphs for both, but mainly because they do the best job at explaining their thought process and aren't too dogmatic. Pipeline seems to have a lot of grade inflation to me and it always feels like they are just following the herd a lot. BP, it's there but I don't thinkt hey have the manpower to scout that the others do.

*Ahem* this offseason sucks.

My personal opinion is Covey has higher upside.

Yeah it sucks 2017 they really were at the pivot point for talent. I think they would have gone Hiura/Adell had they been there. And Seisse and Sheets had same amount given to them.

Exactly.

That's a pretty uncharitable reading.

I wouldn't be surprised if nobody has made a "formal" offer for harper yet.

I at least think they have showed meaningful shifts in each years that show they too don't have a handle on things. 2016 was a bunch of players with good walk rates/good power, but higher K rates 2017 was a frick load full of good walk rates and good k rates, but often limited athletes (gonzalez could of course save the whole draft). 2018 showed more of a balance, more versatile athletes and pitchers with some more interesting stuff. But my personal template for all of these years should have been top college bat, high school player, top college player left, save on money, chance on high schooler, whatevers left... I don't like the Walker, sheets, burdi picks because they were primed to spend a little more to get some top high school talent but instead paid sometimes overslot for college juniors. I'll never really understand why the sox needed to go so overslot for a college junior 1b in the second round. What leverage did he have? That said, 2018 was more encouraging to me from a player type perspective, but the 2017 draft (Which I found interesting at the time) just showed the limits of "safer" college production.

Great post Y2Jimmy, This is well said "Players who develop at a slower pace or incur a setback of any variety don't have youth on their side in the same fashion that a high school prospect would. Luckily for the Chicago White Sox though, landing players on top prospect lists at various publications isn't the organizational goal of the draft. It is to supply the organization with enough premium talent to compile a critical mass that will be used as currency in addition to filling holes in Chicago." Sox have avoided HS and really never went for it with a big latam class. Starting to wonder if it's scout preference or acknowledgment of difficulty the org has in developing young, raw talent. Would really like to see more from the pitching side from Hostetlers drafts.

I actually never thought they would be that close in total dollars and wouldn't be surprised if Bryce got 350 where Manny only got 250