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Sure seems like Machado has been less prolific on instagram. That's not really interesting, just wanted to change subject from the last 20 posts.

The Sir kindly updated the whaling thread with the big whopping news of the last few hours.

Well he forgot Jay,

That's cool. I wonder if they are allowed to invite some local talent as a recruitment opportunity.

I like the hire. If the last few years should have taught the nfl anything its that whatever it's CW on what makes a successful head coach is clearly wrong. Some guys are going to fail big, but complaining about guys coming from unconventional backgrounds falls hollow to me after seeing the performance of recent coaches in the modern nfl. And maybe it's even the structure of what it means to be a HC changes.

shocked levine got it wrong.

I think he's going to be someone like Javy Baez that finds value in something we don't even thinking about (tagging, slides). Obviously, since we need to beat the dead horse, he does not have the power of Javy Baez. But when people look at his profile and just assign a slashline to him, I don't think that will tell the whole story of him.

It's a weird mix of being down on madrigal and also penciling madrigal in at second base already and moving the active roster around to accomodate. Kid just needs to play. I think he'll be great and be a weird player that succeeds in ways we can't anticipate now.

That $1 million buyout for the team option is nice.

I think people put way too much stock in Madrigal's performance last year. It was post college world series, moving to new town, and he was pushed harder than every other player drafted. I expect to see major improvement this year.

Agree, and if these were done with less certainty, I think there is a 4th option where sox feel their bid is comfortably ahead where NYY can appear attractive, and are doing this so that if they are close/match with phillies they get the nod.

Thanks for all of the content NS72 and best of luck! Welcome Clinton!

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Well, man the nats front office has always leaked like a sieve however.

That cost is a good way of thinking about it, I always worry most about how easy it will be to trade. Each extra year of dead money seems harder to shed than sharing one last year or two with exchanging bad contracts. Regardless, both easy to swallow if it means getting to watch Machado for his age 26-32 seasons.

But the answer was with us all along, Leury Garcia, king of kings, is also projected to have .1 in 275 ABs. Combine the two together like a megazord and you got yourself a stew going.

To not have those two last years even with it more expensive upfront is such an advantage.

I would be so impressed if sox got this bid with anything 8/280 or less. That actually feels like a good contract, not even an overpay.

engel wrc+ - 70 Jay wrc+ - 83 fWar - .1 fWar -.1 I personally don't think Hahn for a second is just doing this signing to actually improve the club through adding Jon Jay, I think he learned his lesson. I think many on this site are buying into the old logic that replacing a player they don't like with a veteran marginal signing will be an improvement, and just don't sell me that. Jay is a piece of a puzzle, if he's by himself it's not something to cheerlead.

Thank you. Literally the reason we can go after Manny was because the team is supposed to be able to easily recreate a Jon Jay And Alonso production internally. If we are actually arguing that signing 1 year 30+ yo vets is this objective good independent of it helping acquire Machado I just need to point you to 2 years ago. Hahn does not get the benefit of the doubt that signing several 1 year old position player vets is a good thing. This better darn well be only due to Machado and nothing else.

yeah well the cardinals haven't signed anyone big for a while despite making money hand over fist and the entire city claiming it's greatest in the world so maybe they screwed up then.

Uh, yeah I'd rather just go with the "pay him more money" option then. There is a baseline assumption that sox are being aggressive in obviously matching and exceeding the dollar amounts required and I don't assume that. Very much is a concern they are doing this as a "creative" workaround to paying the dollars required to land him.

Only if it fails but the players union is probably thrilled.

Second half 2018 OBP: Engel .287 / Jay .292

But if that's in lieu of offering the most money it's naive. I'm very optimistic that Machado is indeed going to find his way here and these will be incredibly creative and interesting ways to lure a free agent. BUT, there is indeed a scenario that sox made these out of desperation and as a substitute for a bid that would lure him on its own, and that to me is not a "well we tried, what more could we have done" reaction, it's a "look at the fools being fools again".