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There was no requirement that we had to trade Swarzak for an outfielder.

Eh, it could be literally true (i.e. the last formal offer was for x years/200 mill), but not true to the current moment of negotiations and not a take it or leave it offer.

He was a pretty big wild card in baseball too though.

they may be selling that but they aren't seeing 20k butts in the seats I can tell you.

And one other part though, they also pose more of an immediate roster spot issue when they are injured yet not established. I think that better displays the urgency in which those guys needed to hit. We had to make decisions fairly quickly with them.

but he was near 26 when we got him with a back injury. Technically they are more developed but their margin for error seems so much more slim than with a younger player. He basically needed to prove it really quickly.

That's not what I'm saying, I'm saying the lost time due to injuries is worse for a 24/25/26 year old prospect who needed to prove themselves at mlb level almost immediately. They lost 6 months and were effectively replaced.

I would have been happier with the process in that, personally. I was open to these trades at time despite preference being younger wild cards. But seeing how necessary it was for them to get playing time right away to decide whether they would stick (AAA would not define that anymore), I'd hope that any flips sox still may do targets younger players. They may not make sox, but they'd have a longer window of being trade chips even if they don't pan out. The value of these guys died 6 months after they were acquired.

I think a lot of posters (@iamshack specifically) said that should have been game all along. I was open to it as sox had shown some ability to target these types of players in the past, but they were injured but also...they just didn't have very high ceilings and I think taking less certainty in a tradeoff for higher payoff (players that still may grow into their bodies and raise ceilings) made more sense for rebuilding sox than targeting these players to see what they did with an MLB spot. They really could have just used waivers for that exclusively.

I think the injuries showed off the risk in acquiring 24/25 year olds.

Not sure that would work out well for white sox.

Clock is ticking man, I don’t know they’ll have a chance.

Sox really whiffed on their targets they acquired from duke/swarzak. I hope they re evaluate that type of return.

I can't express to you if I was a phillies fan how much i would gag at my new outfield of McCutchen Pollock and ...Hoskens? Herrerra? My rebuilding team suddenly looks old and broken down.

The lit on this is really annoying. There is like a single mlb.com article that addresses the costs for non lux tax teams and explicitly lists who is revenue sharing team and who isn't.

Oh my bad! I totally blanked on that with the trade.

Isn't the assumption we sign Manny though too?

Someone have Jim Thome call up Manny and tell him the walkway is called sky's the limit, that's gotta be worth like 1/8th of one of his friends on the team.

I just don't believe a professional installation would be so sloppy with the wires to and from the sign. It looks like a house fixture...maybe a restaurant.

Oh sorry. I think the connection he may have drawn is that the big neon walkway in o'hare is called "sky's the limit". I don't believe there is a neon sign anywhere saying that though, but I could be wrong! I've never been in the fancy lounges.

Screen shot. I assume if this was good someone on twitter would have shrieked by now.

I follow machado on instagram, I didn't see that. He had a neon sign that was in a bedroom/house that said skys the limit. Now it's a pic from the WBC with some Dr teammates. any of those teammates white sox now? I'll try to post it.

And where owners demand public financing for everything rather than their own money. Talk about skin in the game. Yes, more than just the mlb players union need improvements. But it's okay to talk about the mlb players union needing an improvement. Most of these guys did not come from posh backgrounds and developed an incredible skill that we all take joy from and can hope they get the spoils of that.

I was literally just reminding myself that it was just two days ago we were getting relevant info. Rowand asked why it was relevant and I made that comment. I'm sorry you disagreed with a joke.

I have no idea how you took that away from that sentence.