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Not really but they graduated basically everyone to the states this year, and did not have much of a 2017 intl class. The best signing is already stateside. Typically they’ve been bad but this is worst it’s been, and it will be better next year. Just a perfect storm if you care about record of guys last year being good enough to graduate and no class to fill in behind them.

Would likely need to trade Felicio just to get it to work

Deandre Jordan ... what? Look at the other $20 mill players. Congrats, we just signed a taller JR Smith to $20 mill.

Just love paying the dumbest players on the court the most money

kid is the worst. Let him leave.

I bet they match but gross. I don’t think much of Lavine at all. Sacramento targeting him proves that point.

He may have received some pretty good money from the Japanese team too.

lol yes this is basically what he said.

Hey are there any swing folks here that could tell me things about this swing

A massive day for Forbes now at 4-4 with a 2b. Basabe 2-3 as well.

I probably don’t talk about Forbes enough. Repeating the level, but he’s upped his power by a lot while cutting his k rate. Near .300 now, has to have checked every box this year. If he improves power through Birmingham he’ll be really interesting. I remember him being a really athletic graded player, nice to have in our system.

Not sure need is the right word but I think having some good more stable SP would help our better prospects develop. I think one of the reasons for our errors is guys constantly pressing knowing the pitchers need everything they can get. but this is all just intangible stuff. I like Morton/Keuchel as fits with our staff and would be fine signing them.

Neither of those things are important.

This forums tendency to hold it against our prospects when they perform poorly as if it’s to spite them is the weirdest thing.

This didn’t age well.

I don’t mind adding market rate SP at all. Where I think sox can have good cost savings is if they can make an organic bullpen.

False choice!

Yep. Stockpile it, but also progressing lots of young pitching at once sucks to watch.

Jose Rodriguez 1-4, Samil Polanco 2-4. Polanco is 18, has a low k rate, and little power. He's now 1 of 2 players I find interesting in DSL. Feels like Jeereck Francess never plays (however you spell it.)

I would say that Hahn has definitely fanned flames on a big 2018-19 offseason. He's never absolute, but he's absolutely played into the fan excitement about Machado, etc.

yeah. Broken record from me at this point, but this time last year the phillies were going through same crisis. Everything seemed to be regressing. Then Rhys show came in august and they had a nice ending, signed Arrietta, their pitchers got healthier and it's all good. (They also replaced their manager).

I'd also say that I'm in favor of the sox paying big for pitching and I like Keuchel as a fit with our org, also like morton on a 2 year deal. I'm fine with our pitchers learning in AAA a la the Rays and forcing their hand to be up. Especially considering most of our pitchers problems are with control.

Madrigal day.

Could just mean going some short term deals for talent rather than getting the one big fish. Could then go after Arenado the next year. Lots of answers to shifting the outlook another year. Like I've said though, the downside to people cheering being as bad as possible this year is it makes the team that much less attractive. Need to have a strong second half if there's any hope. But, it was a risk to the keeping spots open for players to prove it. Few, if any, did. And so it's unlikely harper is gonna be like, yeah!, they are a Harper away! And if you want them to spend that many no matter the talent...I disagree.

I think that "may not be 2020 or even 2021" was editorializing but main point may be this fa period sox may not be that active. Could be like Braves of last year, who did some signings to soften the blow but didn't compromise the rebuild.