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QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jul 30, 2005 -> 02:46 AM) Yeah, I read the whole article. I don't know why I overlooked Guardado, but he makes a lot of sense. It seems that Bavasi is finally starting to realize that Texas/Anahiem/Oakland won't lose the rest of the games this year, thus giving the M's the AL West title. And, with Guardado, the Sox could play the matchups in the 9th, rather than just giving Hermy the ball. Lefties hit .250 off of him, as opposed to righties hitting .243. Really... it makes a lot of sense. I'm sorry, just cause I have to. Hermy, Eddie, Cliff, Neal, Jenks, Damaso . That's just a deep and versatile bullpen. Obviously I'm getting way ahead of myself but that would be awesome.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jul 30, 2005 -> 02:36 AM) No problem. Truth be told, if Bavasi wanted 1st-round Josh Fields for Guardado, straight up... I'd probably do it. I dunno, I guess I'm not that high on Fields... BTW -- I think Guardado is a lot more realistic than Wagner, too. And, I think he'd be a better option, because I think you could get him for less, without giving up Mac or Marte. I agree. I'm not sure if you read the whole article or just saw the blurb from a site like rotoworld or prosportsdaily but that's a good read. It talks about how it looks like Eddie will be traded, the thing that I didn't know is that he has a partial no trade and teams included are: The Yanks, Bosox, and Mets, plus others. The sox aren't on that list so we're fine. Good stuff, I'd love Eddie on the southside.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jul 30, 2005 -> 02:31 AM) I'm pretty sure you know, but just to clarify -- by Fields, I mean the reliever. And I'd do that in a heartbeat. If Damaso Marte is the worst guy you have in your 'pen... wow. You got a good bullpen. Some people project Tracey as a reliever, anyways -- let's hope Bavasi doesn't know that. To be honest, no I was thinking the 3rd baseman. All these rumors have just all come together now it seems, I've seen so much, just...blah, I think you know what I'm saying. I missed the /Baj part, if I saw that I would have known you were talking about the reliever.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jul 30, 2005 -> 02:13 AM) Sorry fellas, I hate to make a new thread when there's already 50 other threads out there, but I hadn't seen Guardado's name mentioned anywhere. So, here it is: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/baseball/234621_mbok30.html What would it take? Tracey + Vizcaino? Tracey + Fields/Baj + Vizcaino? Tracey could probably be a centerpiece for this deal. To be honest, I'd do either deal, all though Tracey and Fields are two pretty solid spects along with Viz who probably does have some trade value. Guardado is having a fantastic year, he's another guy I'd love to have.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jul 29, 2005 -> 11:31 PM) Bigbie dealt to Boston for Catcher Kelly Shoppach and OFer Adam Stern. EDIT: I'll merge this once people see it with the other trades thread in a few. I'd assume this takes them off the list of potential Huff suitors considering they just dumped one of their best spects? They also got a left handed hitting outfielder that they wanted but yeesh, that's overpaying to an extreme.

QUOTE(Soxnbears01 @ Jul 29, 2005 -> 10:34 PM) duke w/ 2 GREAT starts in a row. that's what you like to see. Against two very good offenses as well.

AND THAT'S A WHITE SOX WINNER!!!!!!!!1

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jul 29, 2005 -> 09:02 PM) Rooney and Farmer suggesting that someone might be here to see Luis (scouts -- as opposed to a girlfriend, or something). That would make sense then.

A little over managing here by Oz, oh well get this thing over quick, Viz.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jul 29, 2005 -> 08:58 PM) Has Soxtalk been crashing on anyone else a little bit more than normal as of late? Ya.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Jul 29, 2005 -> 08:23 PM) First off, it wouldn't cost as much as you guys think considering we'd be taking on his contract. I don't know why people don't grasp that concept. Secondly, I didn't know it was a rule that Manny would have to play OF when there is a DH spot available. At last, Kenny wouldn't inquire if it wasn't possible. It's too close to the deadline to inquire about things that are very close to impossible. You're nuts. It would take an absolute dismanteling(sp?) of this team to land Manny, the Bosox aren't going to trade one of the best hitters in baseball to a playoff contender to rid themselves of his contract. NOT. GONNA. HAPPEN.

Not. Gonna. Happen.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Jul 29, 2005 -> 08:07 PM) If that deal really goes down, the White Sox are screwed. Especially if it's true that the Red Sox will inquire about Ken Griffey if the deal does go down. We'd certainly have to get Wagner, maybe Burnett and Guardado as well. That deal won't happen, to much crap would have to be worked out for that to work.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jul 29, 2005 -> 07:44 PM) Gathright doesn't have much else except for speed. I mean, he can run, and it looks like he'll hit for a decent average, but offhand, I don't think he walks a lot. And, IIRC, he had something like one HR in his minor league career. .391 career obp in the minors. Who cares about his homerun total when he's going to be a leadoff hitter?

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jul 29, 2005 -> 07:40 PM) So, any chance at all that the Twins sell with the Hunter injury? No.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jul 29, 2005 -> 07:34 PM) Ick. I hate deadline deals for relief pitchers. They could really come back to bite you in the rear-end, especially if you're giving up a future position player/starting pitcher. Marte and McCarthy for Wagner? Sheesh... that's a tough call. As much as I love Brandon, this is a deal I'd do in a heartbeat.

QUOTE(Stocking @ Jul 29, 2005 -> 07:33 PM) anyone know of any philly fan forums? philaphans.com. Nothing really being talked about there about this.

QUOTE(AWhiteSoxinNJ @ Jul 29, 2005 -> 07:10 PM) The lastest from John Marzano is the following as heard on Comcast Sportsnet in Philly: Sox: Wagner Phils: BMac and Marte Don't shoot the messenger.... Care to explain a little man. Just speculation, could be done, what?

Yeah, he's gone.

QUOTE(Soxnbears01 @ Jul 29, 2005 -> 06:55 PM) "and we're just sailing right along here" - hawk oh that crazy ken That Buehrle game against seattle was over about this time into the game.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jul 29, 2005 -> 06:40 PM) Hit the f***ing heaters in your wheelhouse. He listened to you.

PAULY!!!!!!!!!!

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jul 29, 2005 -> 06:33 PM) The Rangers must be packing it in. Haven't they already realized that more offense won't get them anywhere without pitching? Yes, I know Park isn't good, but why take another expensive offensive weapon? Just two teams wanting to move bad contracts basically.

QUOTE(Brian @ Jul 29, 2005 -> 06:24 PM) Last 2 starts have been quality, right? Nah, he allowed 4 runs his first outing back but it was still a very solid outing.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jul 29, 2005 -> 06:21 PM) It was ESPNEWS, and he did say we were involved in a whole hell of a lot of possible deals. Thanks milkman, just wanted to make sure I wasn't going crazy.