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QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Dec 6, 2006 -> 04:17 PM) The only thing I remember about Everett in CF was a game-saving HR robbing catch in a Buehrle-Mulder matchup at home in August. Oh god, Carl was probably the worst cf of all time coming in on balls, it was horrendous. EDIT: As far as Brian and Mack, they were basically the same offensive player in the 2nd half, you add in the defensive problems of Mack and you realize how ridiculous it was for Mack to be playing so many games out there.

Clever though Alfonso Soriano can't be traded.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 6, 2006 -> 03:32 PM) That's some great logic. Good logic or not, Bonds will never sniff jail.

QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 6, 2006 -> 11:26 AM) I have to disagree with you here. Hirsh is a big time pitching prospect, and I doubt the Astros would give him up. I actually agree with Fathom about Hirsh.

QUOTE(SnB @ Dec 6, 2006 -> 01:19 AM) don't get your hopes up, you know he's going to say something incredibly stupid soon that will get him in the national media. What social group does he go after next? I say pet owners. People who dance to hippopotamus songs.

I'm hoping Houston enters this whole mix as they have a lot of talent that I like. Jason Hirsh

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Dec 6, 2006 -> 12:18 AM) Can we please close this thread? C'mon Jason, Kalapse, Greasy. Anybody with the power. This trade proposal makes me literally sick to my stomach. Well I could have but since my name wasn't mentioned, I will not.

Washington State beats the Zags by 10. UCLA ended up blowing it open in the 2nd half against Gage's Titans.

Thank god. "Give me all righties, as long as they're good. Give me all lefties, as long as they're good," Guillen said. "I don't want to have a lefty just to have a lefty. Ok Ozzie.

Arizona is something like 1 for 16 in the 2nd half. This Louisville-Zona game is just disgusting.

LSU takes down A&M by 12. Now that win at LSU looks even better for the Shockers which will look better for SIU when we beat WSU.

A couple of other games to note: Purdue continues to impress, they beat a real good Loyola team quite easily. And UIC absolutely blew out NIU, I was very surprised to see that.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Dec 5, 2006 -> 09:17 PM) It appears the Mets will be sending Brian Bannister to the Royals for Burgos. Might make Heilman more readily available.

Ok State takes down Cuse and UNI played one of the worst 35 minutes of basketball you'll ever see and ended up beating Iowa.

Hawkeyes up 10 on UNI at the half in one of the worst played halves I think I've seen this year.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Dec 5, 2006 -> 07:42 PM) And you need to change your name or something. I love the guy and he'll always be one of my favorite players but I don't want him back on the Sox.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Dec 5, 2006 -> 06:46 PM) WGN Radio had a clip of Ozzie running his mouth about how Brandon is going to AAA, because he doesnt want to pitch out of the pen and he has no right to ask to pitch in the rotation. Ozzie needs to learn how to keep his top lip and his bottom lip together more. Ozzie must be getting twitchy now that KW might trade his relative. Ozzie can shut up. He needs to go back to AAA.

Aaron needs to retire or something.

QUOTE(mmmmmbeeer @ Dec 5, 2006 -> 02:27 PM) When Mark is rolling, he's rolling. When he's struggling, he's struggling...it might be for 2 weeks, it might be for a month, it might be for 3/4 of the season..but he's always come across to me as a streaky pitcher. It's just an observation of mine and I'm not skilled, nor bored enough, to dig through statistics to prove my observation. The context of my statement was built on the premise of a long term deal. I think Freddy, due to the ability and initiative to adjust his game when struggling, is a better candidate and investment for a long term deal. Freddy was a power pitcher, he's got a whole other style to fall back on, namely deception and control. Mark was never a power pitcher and already relies on deception and control. So if, like last season, he loses that control and deception, what does he fall back on? He's got nothing unless he learns a knuckler from Haeger. Edited to add, give me Freddy in a big game over MB. That alone is worth a contract. It took Freddy 5 months to make adjustments and I still don't trust him at all. He had like 3 or 4 starts in September that saved his season from looking like a total disaster. Mark absolutely stunk the 2nd half of last season but I see no reason why he wont bounce back. He's easily the better long term commitment imo.

QUOTE(mmmmmbeeer @ Dec 5, 2006 -> 02:17 PM) IMO, y'all overvalue MB. There's no way in hell I'd offer him 5/65. $15m a year for a guy with so many innings, so dependent on control over stuff, so streaky? I know many will disagree, but I think Freddy is a much better pitcher than MB and I think it'd be a mistake to let Freddy go while signing mark to a 5/65 deal. Neither of them had their best stuff last year but Mark atleast started the season pitching well. When he lost it, he lost it. He was horrible and I saw few adjustments on his part to make things improve. Freddy never had it last season and yet completely adjusted his approach to compensate for his loss of velocity. Hell, he even learned a new pitch which paid instant dividends. How is Mark streaky? He's had one bad season and that was last year. Mark is younger and has better career numbers, how is Freddy better?

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Dec 5, 2006 -> 10:00 AM) Politics. ^^^

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Dec 5, 2006 -> 12:42 AM) I have just a few more fun Scott Podsednik stats before I call it a night. Out of all the players in major league baseball last season who had atleast 465 ABs and 12 SB (35 players) only 3 had a lower OBP than Scott Podsednik's .330 (B. Phillips, J. Barfield, Pr. Wilson.) Out of all the players in major league baseball last season who had atleast 465 ABs and 12 SB (35 players) only one player had a lower SB% than Scott Podsednik's 67.8% (T. Hunter.) Out of all the players in major league baseball last season who had atleast 465 ABs and 9 SB (54 players) only one player had a lower batting average than Scott Podsednik's .261 (A. Everett.) Out of all the players in major league baseball last season who had atleast 465 ABs and 9 SB (54 players) only two player had less total bases than Scott Podsednik's 185 (A. Everett, W. Taveras.) There's more but I'll end it right there. Out of all players last year who played the outfield, he is the only player to prance around to get to a ball instead of hussling and getting underneath it.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Dec 4, 2006 -> 11:31 PM) Sarcasm. I wasn't so sure as people have actually believed what he said

It'd be a fantastic surprise if we can re-sign Mark. Trade Freddy.