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I pose a question for everyone: If rogers did not go, who goes? Do any of you think Freddy would have had a good shot?

I hope walker never comes back!

best.pin.ever Congrats sox! I know its easier for me to wake up every morning knowing the White Sox are in first place, 9 games up, best in the league, best in baseball. Thank you.

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jul 10, 2005 -> 05:37 PM) I got a black one that says "HE GONE!" on the front and "YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE BOARD....YES!" on the back. For $20, a bargain. I got mine for 10

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jul 10, 2005 -> 05:43 PM) Open Internet Explorer > www.dictionary.com > search "dumbass" > YOU Thank you . No good team ever loses 3 in a row? Someone tell this clown that 3 games is our longest losing streak of the year.

QUOTE(wilmot825 @ Jul 10, 2005 -> 01:18 PM) Outside of the stadium by parking lot E there are 5 guys selling T-Shirts that say "He Gone!" and "Mercy" on the front and on the back "U can put it on the board ....yyyeesss!" I bought one for $10, they r the s*** and they come in black and grey. Support the Hawk and buy one of these sweet T's. nice try

Lets Go White SOX !! Stand Up to the A's!!!!!!!!

you're good. you're DAMNED GOOD!

QUOTE(JoshPR @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 05:51 PM) :headshake Another waste of time poll. If anybody wants to join the bandwagon so be it. I know i've been a damn fan for 27 years through good and bad. The more fans the better 94 people who voted cant be wrong wait....... Are you that guy who hates polls?

Linda s needs to get laid

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 04:45 PM) Ken Griffey Jr. baseball on Super Nintendo was awesome. Everytime I go by my grandma's house I still play that game a lot. F thompson was my favorite player on that game

QUOTE(knightni @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 12:19 PM) I wouldn't be against Perez in 06; but, IMO he is too much of a risk for this year. remember talking about perez the other day?

QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 12:09 PM) Oliver Perez is s***. His ERA is over 6, and he's had one decent year. He's having horrible control issues, is on the DL right now because he broke his foot, and his fastball is not travelling at all. f*** that. you serious??? I guess you gave up on .500 pitcher Dontrelle Willis last year?

QUOTE(beck72 @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 12:04 PM) Selective stats to back up someone's opinion?! No way would someone do that? Like Omars Career #'s 5 years past his prime are not selective?

QUOTE(beck72 @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 12:00 PM) I've put it elsewhere, but here goes. career numbers: Vizquel vs Bos: .237/.270/.316 LAA: .343/.416/.455 Minn: .347/.387/.459 Uribe vs Bos: .205/..250/.341 LAA: .191/.186/.244 Minn: .257/.296/.419 did I mention vizquel is hitting .219 in september the last 3 years? Should we get Robbie Alomor again while we're at it? I bet he has good #'s vs Bos Min and LAA. That doesn't mean you trade a 25 y/o shortstop for him!

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 11:57 AM) Good lord...if the Sox traded the two straight up I'd be sick, let alone give something else. Juan Uribe >>>> Omar Vizquel (when were talking about trade value...Giants would make that deal in a heartbeat and I don't think the Sox would). However, the Sox could potentially give up a guy like Uribe if they were also getting Schmidt. Personally I'd go more for picking up Zach Day and packaging him with a couple minor leaguers for AJ. If uribe is used in a package to aquire an ace, then I am all for it. Straight up for vizquel? Why don't we just trade Rowand straight up for griffey and Garland Straight up for Randy Johnson while we're at it. Im sure we could trade a young guy on our 25 man for mesa too.

QUOTE(beck72 @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 11:32 AM) The sox tried very hard to upgrade at SS in the offseason, even after Uribe's break out yr. I don't think he's wowed them this yr so far. IMO, Vizquel could help. With Ozzie saying they could use another bat, I don't see where else they could upgrade. They could upgrade at 3rd. Vizquel was not going to bump uribe out of the lineup. Uribe played 2nd last year, remember? Vizquel was replacing Valentin , not Uribe. If we signed Vizquel we would not have signed Iguchi. Uribe was not the reason we were pursuing Vizquel last year.

are they going to be on the front cover?

Beck, You can't be serious? You don't try to pull that play on Derek Lee earlier this year if you don't have passion. Did you see that pick off play the other day against TB? Uribe cares. He has passion. He didn't gain as much weight that people tend to believe. I seen him at soxfest, he looked a little heavier, but thats what camp is for, to get back in shape. Frank has never come in overweight? Uribe is the only player to come in overweght? Uribe is hitting the following against these possible playoff pitchers : Johan santana .267 Randy Johnson .273 kenny Rogers .300 Mike Mussina .429 Curt Schilling .238 Matt Clement .333 These pitchers pretty much hold the opposition to under a .250 BA. He's Not exactly an easy out. Maybe it's just me. Johan santana .235 Randy Johnson .263 Curt Schilling .111 Kenny Rogers .271 Mike Mussina .260 no at bats vs clement What about A.J.? who is batting .247 What about Gooch who Batted .244 In June and .250 In july so far. Uribe is hitting .333 in July so far. Like I said he is up and down. Dye is just as streaky as uribe. No one is calling for Dye's head because he is hot right now. Dye hit .175 in april and can very well do it again in October. Last year Uribe hit .289 in August and .353 in September. Uribe will be a strong finisher. Vizquel is hitting .219 the last 3 years in september. Guess what? he is another year older. Uribe doesn't bunt? move runners over? hit sacrafice flys? Why uribe out and not crede? I bet most people would rather have uribe at bat in a game tying/winning situation over crede. I dont know how much passion and energy he can possibly have for a team he didn't even want to sign with a 1/2 year ago.

I want no part of day.

QUOTE(beck72 @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 08:22 AM) Ozzie just said the sox might need another bat. Where would that bat play? Who would be replaced? What position are the sox brain trust unhappy with? My bet is SS. The "aging" Vizquel is having another .300 yr, hitting even better vs. RHP [ a very weak area for the sox]. I know Uribe is talented. But in order to win in the playoffs, IMO, a deal like this should be made to improve the club. as far as the people in Clev. laughing at us, I don't think so and I don't care. I just care about the sox playing deep into Oct. And playing solid baseball for yrs to come. Vizquel could easily play another 2 yrs at a high level, the exact time Uribe's contract was up, and Valido could be ready. You dont trade a young ss when is stock is low. Uribe brings to the table what #'s don't show. Passion and energy that rubs off on everyone around him. I swear, I see uribe having the most fun out there. I would rather have him right now then vizquel. Uribe wants to be on this team. I can't say the same for vizquel. You really think Uribe's bat is hurting us? One good month for Uribe will put him close to .300. We still have an entire half of baseball to go. Dye was hitting .216 and is now over .270. Rowand was stuggling too. We still have close to 80 games left. I am willing to bet Uribe will have a stronger 2nd half then Omar Vizquel. I see old players have good 1st halves all the time, then they just fizzle down the stretch because 162 games is a lot. We should have stuck with rowand at cf in 2003 and we should stick with Uribe in 2005.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 07:59 AM) I wouldn't do it, either. I was just stating the Giants should be thrilled with an offer like that. sorry.