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QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ May 7, 2005 -> 06:09 PM) Although many wont admit it, the best team in sox history is the 1919 team. they were great for their era. But I can't take any team from the dead ball era too seriously with teams from the 1930's to present.

QUOTE(The Critic @ May 7, 2005 -> 06:17 PM) Just saw on ESPN that Harold Reynolds thinks that YES, the Sox pitch well enough AND score enough runs to keep up their "surprising start". Bascially complimented every aspect of the Sox game, especially Podsednik, the pitching and even Everett, who he called "a MONSTER"! Also called Juan Uribe "the key to the surge", mentioning his power and defense at short. ....you can exhale now....ESPN LOVES THE SOX!!!! last week he called pk "dynamite". He is not a credible source. I could care less what espn thinks.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ May 7, 2005 -> 05:37 PM) I hate to see what happenes to other teams once we hit all cylinders. I won't hate to see what happens

QUOTE(Jabroni @ May 7, 2005 -> 05:23 PM) *Shhhhhhhhh*... let's not jinx it. kinda what me thinks too

QUOTE(Winnin Ugly @ May 7, 2005 -> 05:15 PM) I think this year team is the best Sox team of the last 25 years Best team of the last 25 years? If you say this team is better than the 83 team, then it is the best team since '59.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ May 7, 2005 -> 04:44 PM) That's about right except for the font on the Sox headline is too large......probably be buried below the racing form too. What ever happened to :

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ May 7, 2005 -> 02:41 AM) Exactly. And you can't miss that many games and still win it. I'm not some huge Nash fan either. It was more of a default win than anything else. But saying he didn't deserve it because he isn't the greatest PG of all time or whatever is ridiculous. It's not a life-time achievement award. You're not competing against the players of the past. It doesn't matter if somebody had a better year than you 5 years ago and didn't win it. It's a single season award. Like I said before, because of the lack of amazing individual season-long efforts by a player on a top team in the league, it was slim pickings this year... The talent level and greatness of the past just isn't there in the NBA currently... Nash would be the 3rd best player on his own team. But he is the most valuable of him, amare, and marion. You don't have so many individual stand out talents as in years past because teams are more deeper, and not as dependent on one individual.

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ May 7, 2005 -> 02:35 AM) Sure. That's how it is every year. But the strongest case usually wins. But to be honest, outside of Nash and maybe shaq, I really couldn't see any others who had a strong case. Nobody had their impact on how their teams became so strong and won so many games. KG? C'mon now...He's great, but the wolves were s***ty as hell this year. It would have been a mockery of the award to give it ti him... True, its hard to say duncan too because, the spurs weren't exactly struggling without him.

even though I feel Bibby , or Kidd would have led that team to the same record fact is, they were not there. Nash was on the right team to be the most valuable player. Put nash on almost any other team, and he does not get the award. When I think about it though, Phoenix was struggling with out nash. It really showed his value to that team.

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ May 7, 2005 -> 02:29 AM) You would think it's a fairly simple concept... Its a simple concept to most.

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ May 7, 2005 -> 02:22 AM) No, not really. All their numbers went down, most had injuries, and you're joking if you think KG would win it going from one of the best in the West last year to not making the playoffs this year. There's no value in that. You really didn't even present a valid argument against Nash winning it. Nash won it not because he will go down in history as one of the best players to play the game, but because there was a lack of strong performances this year for MVP. It speaks more on the level of talent of the NBA right now. Nobody really broke through to make a strong case for MVP this year, and that is a trend that may continue... I still have no idea why you compared him to Kidd from years ago if the award is for THIS year... You could make an argument for a few guys winning it, nash is definatley one of those guys. I don't see why not.

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ May 7, 2005 -> 12:29 AM) You made 2 verry good points... you made a good point ,pointing out his points

QUOTE(qwerty @ May 7, 2005 -> 01:59 AM) Considering it was jordans best year out of his last seven i would say no. But if barkley would have had that type of season in any other year sure. The suns did get nine games better that year so that may have something to do with it. One thing i do know is every time there is an mvp picked there may be one other you can make a case for and this year there are many more than one. That has to tell you something about the decision. I dont think nash is a better player than shaq. I can think of maybe 25 players I'd take over nash, even this year. I think the award goes out to who the voters feel is "most valuable to their team". Not best player. With your lists , you seem to think the best player should get it.

QUOTE(qwerty @ May 7, 2005 -> 01:35 AM) The thing is jordan was not the best player in the league when johnson won his mvps. No matter how much of a homer someone is jordan should not have won mvp's those years. Johnson was nearly averaging triple doubles while being able to play all five positions and play them well. He was also a top notch lock down defender to boot. What about 92-93, do you really think barkley was the best player that year over Jordan, or most valuable to his team? Same question goes for Malone in 96-97.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ May 6, 2005 -> 11:25 PM) Not with Contreras getting all these ND's. better than losses

I really don't care much for a 4th string wr

QUOTE(whitesoxin' @ May 6, 2005 -> 10:10 PM) lol That sux man. You shouldn't blame the Bulls loss on her, that's never a good idea. Just think a lot about the Sox and not a lot about the Bulls. when you put things in perspective I know Im wrong. In the heat of the moment it's a little different lol. You're right about the sox. We have a full summer to loook foward to.

QUOTE(whitesoxin' @ May 6, 2005 -> 10:00 PM) I'm glad I was chilling with some friends and not paying really close attention to the game. I knew if I stayed home and watched it I would end up hurting something/someone. Oh well, great year Bulls. Go get them next year when you're healthy. Look at the bright side, Sox win and Cubs blow another one. I chose to stay home :banghead MY gf calls me when the bulls are up by 10. She asked me what the score was, I told her I was not going to say because , I didn't want her to jinx the bulls like she jinxed the white sox ( long story last year vs cleveland) . As soon as we get off the phone, washington started chipping away. After the game, I sent her a text message to not call me for 2 days. So she called me like 25 times on both of my phones. I finally answered . Lets just say she is mad at me. Im in the dog house now. Im such an asshole. Guess I should have hung out with my friends too :headshake

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ May 6, 2005 -> 05:51 PM) Just remember that while Shingo might make it a little interesting sometimes, We could have LaToya as closer. Yeah that would f***en suck. As bad as shingo has been , cub fans would love to have him. But f*** them.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ May 6, 2005 -> 09:37 PM) JJ good luck to indy. I will root for them.

QUOTE(Goldmember @ May 6, 2005 -> 09:35 PM) agreed, but he is the one that had me yelling at the tv the loudest... yelling at the TV? My tv gets a lot more abuse then that.

QUOTE(Jabroni @ May 6, 2005 -> 09:23 PM) The guy (Carmen DiFalco?) on ESPN 1000's Bulls post-game thinks Pargo will be gone after tonight's performance saying that he shot way too much and played no defense and basically hurt the team. That f***en guy is not the GM . John f***en Paxson is. Not that I really care if pargo is back or not.

at least we're sox fans. Imagine what all the cub/bulls fans are going through. The thought of that makes me feel just a little better. Im still getting hammered as we speak.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ May 6, 2005 -> 09:08 PM) What an ass wipe, just wait till we aren't so damn young when we steam roll your asses. Hell we steam roll you if we are healthy THIS year. WE take that f***en series in 5 if we were healthy. I dont think I'll watch the rest of the playoffs. I could take losing to any team except washington.

I wanted to beat washington also because of the hatred I have grown to have towards them. f*** THEM!