RockRaines

He should be pretty cool when he's resting on the DL about 2 months into the season after hitting about .220.

QUOTE (T R U @ Apr 3, 2009 -> 02:22 PM) The Bears mortgaged their future for a guy who is 17-20 as a starter and has never had a winning season. If you guys wanna keep ignoring what I have been saying about this I can easily turn this into a why this was a terrible deal for the Bears and how they are now f***ed. This is all I want to see please. And also how having a franchise QB signed for the next several years and only giving up 2 draft picks is mortgaging their future, I dont quite understand that at all.

QUOTE (T R U @ Apr 3, 2009 -> 03:51 PM) Take however you want, don't really care bro. You're a Bears fan, there is no point in trying to argue it with you. What are we arguing? You said you wanted people to pay attention to you or you would show how the Bears are totally f***ed. I'm just waiting to see that threat come to life. So far you said Cutlers a crybaby, its windy in Chicago, we dont have Brandon Marshall, and Daniels 2 years in NE proves he will turn anyone into Tom Brady. I still dont see how the Bears have f***ed themselves in that scenario. Cutler's Qb rating is 7 points higher than the GREATEST season a Bears QB has had since that stat was in place. I want to see this flip side argument that you keep threatening to bring up. Thats all. Call it Bears fan enlightenment.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Apr 3, 2009 -> 11:49 AM) No one said he's still the freak that came out of Ohio State. He can definitely be very good this year, which is all I said. Orlando Pace with one good leg is significantly better than some of the crap the Bears have lined up at tackle the last several seasons.

QUOTE (T R U @ Apr 3, 2009 -> 03:18 PM) Cutler was sacked 11 times last season, the Bears offensive line is nowhere near as good as Denvers so lets say Cutler gets beat up more this season.. You can also throw in the fact that he had better targets to throw to in Denver so now lets say that also adds a dip in his performance. How about weather conditions? How about the fact that Cutler was quick to turn into the biggest cry baby in the league when Denver only tried to get the guy McDaniels wanted? There are plenty of reasons as to why Cutler can come to Chicago and be a huge disappointment while the Broncos could add some big pieces to their team and future with what they have acquired from this deal. Not to mention the chance that Orton has a similar if not better season than Cutler next year given the circumstances. Of course, Cutler could also flourish and the Broncos can get nothing from those picks and Orton as well. Its a two way street and we wont know for a few years, however, I would rather have Orton, two firsts, and an extra third over Cutler when you see what QBs have done in McDaniels system. I think it was a good move for the Bears, however, all the Bears fans on this board seem to think im trying to say they got the raw end of a deal here when im not. I would just prefer what Denver know has, but the Bears also needed a true franchise QB. They still have a lot of needs though and not having those picks could also factor in to why they could be f***ed. Was this supposed to prove the bears were f***ed? It looks like alot of opinions and what ifs including things like weather conditions, even going so far as to use Cutler's media quotes to call him a crybaby. Losing 2 draft picks is why? I need more explanation as your original quote sounded like a threat to the board that you were going to blow up our good moods with some serious evidence on how the Bears have screwed themselves for years for trading 2 first round picks and a fringe starting QB. Feel free to really put it out there this time.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 3, 2009 -> 03:04 PM) Exactly. Given how highly the NFL values draft picks, the Bears paid a huge price here. But it was entirely the correct move for that team. For the Bears, its a huge win. Cutlers career QB rating in his first 2 years is already 7 points higher than the top season for A Bears QB all time.

Y2, Yeah, I think much of my problem was that I knew a certain amount of excercises and cardio routines for the gym and after awhile my body got used to the entire spectrum. I wanted to try something else with someone leading me in not only the types of moves I need to do to break my comfort zone, but also the amount of reps I should be doing in an intense workout that is new. As for Yoga. I know its gimicky, but it does have its uses for maintaining and improving flexbility when training muscle groups. I, for one, have terrible flexibility and am looking to improve it because it does go a long way for healthy joints and muscles.

QUOTE (Palehosefan @ Apr 3, 2009 -> 12:31 PM) Roy Williams has silently been recruiting John Wall for the last few weeks, and placed a call to him from the Final Four yesterday. Things are going to get REAL interesting. I believe thats a violation.

QUOTE (T R U @ Apr 3, 2009 -> 02:22 PM) Sorry, Broncos won that deal. And I know you got your Bears glasses on right now, but take em off and maybe you'll see Griese and Plummer both had some very good seasons with the Broncos. The Bears mortgaged their future for a guy who is 17-20 as a starter and has never had a winning season. If you guys wanna keep ignoring what I have been saying about this I can easily turn this into a why this was a terrible deal for the Bears and how they are now f***ed. Please turn it into why the Bears are f***ed, I'd like to see it.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Apr 2, 2009 -> 05:49 PM) he is? didnt know that. Yeah. His dad came out and said this was the happiest day ever for their family since they grew up huge Bears fans.

Its also great that he is a huge bears fan.

QUOTE (That funky motion @ Apr 2, 2009 -> 02:05 PM) I've been thinking of doing this workout. I have found it for $45 on the internet. What did you pay and do you use the online stuff it come with and the diet? I paid whatever it costs because I wanted the booklet and the diet book as an outline. I'm not too far in, but basically feel sore in very strange places at this point and consistently see my muscles give out during workouts. This almost never happened to me with the frequency it is in the gym.

Wow-long posts=dead thread.

One of the greatest Buckeyes ever. I'm so happy he's on the Bears.

Perfect, didnt overpay IMO. JA cant draft anyway. I'm glad Orton had some value.

awesome

howd they score the run?

With the hitters we have from #2 to #9, what difference will it really make to put BA and Wise in the leadoff spot?

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Apr 2, 2009 -> 11:58 AM) He did stand out last night. C'mon Rock, you and I stand by our boy. I honestly dont even like him that much, but if he's called out when he plays bad, I think he should be mentioned when he has a good game.

Personally I think the indians are terrible as well. Of course dont let SI or ESPN hear that since they think they are young and talented in every position.

I know it wont be mentioned on here but Soup had a pretty good game last night as did most of the defense. I liked their agressive work in the middle of the ice.

QUOTE (That funky motion @ Apr 1, 2009 -> 10:41 PM) Rock, how you doing with this workout? Yoga tonight, sucks. Totally using muscles differently than I usually do.

QUOTE (knightni @ Apr 1, 2009 -> 03:42 PM) Why not use old tires like they do for sports fields and city courts? Mix the rubber with asphalt to create a more durable road surface. You think rubber would hold up to the pounding, chemicals, weather and salt better than what they have now? Chicago will always have potholes and s***ty streets, if you want endless stretches of wide open smooth freeway move to Arizona.

Get over it Detroit, nobody wants your worthless #1 pick.