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I hope Frank offers to take some swings to show he's not juiced...

Heres a good tip if you think you arent good at buying tickets. Walk by the guys that sell the tickets right by the EL, offer them 10 dollars for every ticket they offer you, they ALWAYS come down on price. We do this all the time when people want to come with us and becuase we have seasons we need to buy box seats from these guys.

QUOTE(mmmmmbeeer @ Mar 9, 2005 -> 07:11 AM) I know it's been mentioned on here by several other folks, but I REALLY hope that those two spots go to Walker and Adkins with Cottsy working as a SP in Charlotte. I agree and I will tell you why. There is some serious age on the sox that is going to be filled in with several younger players in the next 2 seasons. Anderson, sweeney, fields, ragowski. But there is also some young pitching talent coming up through the ranks as well, BMAC, Honel, Cotts. I think if we send Cotts down to the minors for ayear to work on his role as a SP, then when Contreras and El Duque hit 50 years old next season or the one after that, they can be filled in with two or three young guns with SP experience over several years. I want us to be able to reload this team, when we have to cut payroll and cut age.

They passed up Mark Prior for Joe mauer, which one will pay off more???

I wish they would test all of those guys, to finally prove that frank didnt take anything. If it wasnt for dumbass Giambi, Frank would have 3 Al MVP's and no doubt to get into the HOF

Its not like they dont have a couple of other arms that get the job done against us. I will be at the game, this better be a W like last year/

my fav is an authentic 83 fisk away jersey, got it on ebay, great price, great jersey

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Mar 8, 2005 -> 12:11 PM) I will go and try them. I'm not really a lava hot wings kinda guy. I prefer overall flavor with a littel sting, some are just pain and no taste, that's just stupid, IMO. I agree, these are just damn tasty, try equal parts hot and bbq wings, and some fries and I promise you will thank me

What's it like to be a White Sox fan? Really, I'd like to know. What's it like to follow a team that should be good every season, based on its inherent advantages? And is, sort of. Just not good enough. That must be frustrating. In 2000, the White Sox posted the best record in the American League. They probably weren't the best club; the A's and Mariners were probably a bit better when you consider strength of schedule. Maybe the Yankees were better, too (though the Yankees won only 87 games that season, with a ho-hum run differential). Still, nobody expected the White Sox to get swept in their Division Series with the Mariners. In 2001, the White Sox got off to a 14-29 start and wound up eight games behind the first-place Indians. In 2002, the White Sox muddled along for most of the season, with only a late-season push getting them to .500 on the button (and a distant second place). In 2003, the White Sox had first place all to themselves on the morning of Sept. 3. They played decently down the stretch, but not as decently as the Twins, who finished two games in front. In 2004, the White Sox held first place as late as July 25 before pitching into a terrible slump that dropped them from contention by late August. The result was yet another second-place finish, the club's seventh in nine seasons. What's it like to be a long-time White Sox fan? Since 1919, when the Black Sox threw the World Series, the Sox have won exactly five postseason games (in 2004 alone, the Houston Astros won six). Since 1959, when they won two World Series games against the Dodgers, the White Sox have won three postseason games. Three postseason wins in 45 seasons. In those 45 seasons, only three teams – the Senators/Rangers (1), the Rockies (1) and the Devil Rays (0) – have failed to win more than three postseason games … and none of those teams existed in 1959. Curse of the Bambino? Give me a break. Between the White Sox' general lack of success, their skinflint owner, the occasional relocation threats, and the last bad ballpark, when it comes to misery nobody's got anything on these Sox fans. So will 2005 be the Year of the White Sox? Stranger things have happened. But you'd have to be a starry-eyed optimist to think this team's going to be a lot better than it was a year ago. A lot's been made of the power-for-speed swap the Sox made in trading Carlos Lee for Scott Podsednik (and reliever Luis Vizcaino), but that's just one-ninth of the lineup. The White Sox also signed Jermaine Dye, who's far from great but does represent a slight improvement over what the White Sox had in right field last season (roughly equal parts Magglio Ordonez, Timo Perez and Joe Borchard). Japanese import Tadahito Iguchi figures to be a real improvement over incumbent co-second baseman Willie Harris, though the recent history of Japanese rookies isn't all that encouraging. If Frank Thomas is healthy, the White Sox are going to score a fair number of runs. Then again, last season the White Sox were outscored by only the Red Sox and Yankees, and look where it got them. Granted, the new Comiskey Park is hitter friendly, but this is a good-hitting club and has been for some time. The problem is the pitching. As others have observed, White Sox owner Jerry Reinsdorf has generally been unwilling to pay the market rate for good starting pitchers, and it's hard to blame him. The Sox did reverse this trend recently, though, re-signing Freddy Garcia to a long-term deal. Garcia's a fine pitcher, but he was there for half of last season so his continued presence doesn't represent a huge upgrade. And once you get past Garcia and Mark Buehrle, what's left? Jose Contreras has a 4.85 career ERA, and hasn't thrown more than 170 innings in a season. Orlando Hernandez hasn't thrown more than 146 innings in a season since 2000. Jon Garland's now been in the rotation for three seasons, and his ERAs in those seasons were 4.58, 4.51, and 4.89. The White Sox do have some pretty good pitching prospects in the minors, but none is ready to help the big club in 2005. Which leaves this team in the same position as another dozen or so around the majors -- they could be good if two or three pitchers are a lot better than we think they'll be. But how often does that actually happen? Pitchers get hurt, and wind up disappointing us far more often than they surprise us. The 2005 White Sox are a decent team, as usual, and if the Twins should stumble, the Sox have as good a chance as anybody. But it's been a while since the Twins stumbled, and there's no reason to think this is the year. Senior writer Rob Neyer writes for Insider two or three times per week during the offseason. To offer criticism, praise, or anything in between, send e-mail to rob.neyer@dig.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Mar 8, 2005 -> 11:28 AM) Some of you guys on here are lucky that it doesn't happen to penises. you know from experience???

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Mar 8, 2005 -> 11:16 AM) They suck, now hand over those tix. bulls***, you have to go and try them, even the papers rate them as the best. And I have brought several people over there to try them as well. You arent going to get off that easy

here is another one that claims to be a sox fans hangout hawkeyes-http://www.planet99.com/chicago/bars/313.html

QUOTE(Wong & Owens @ Mar 8, 2005 -> 10:39 AM) I haven't been there, but my high school alumni bulletin says a guy I graduated with owns a bar in Wrigleyville that is totally a Sox bar. Says the staff wears the jersey of whichever team the Cubs are playing for uniforms. I think it's called Trace or something. the trace is on 3715 north clark, that might just be the one

wow, his left calf has really shrunk

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Mar 8, 2005 -> 10:32 AM) If I remember correctly, the walls are covered in Cleveland stuff, Browns, Indians, Cavs etc. I might have to check it out again then. The wings were kick ass, by the way. I bet you my pair of cubs/sox tickets at the cell that you will find better wings at the birdsnest on altgeld and southport. They are by far the best in the city. Go there on thursday for 25 cent wing night

JUst sell for face value to first person who asks, when I wont be able to attend my games, I will just sell for face. No reason to go all northside on this board and rip each other off

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Mar 8, 2005 -> 08:31 AM) That surprises me, like someone else here said that is a HUGE Cleveland hang out. surprised me as well, I think you will see more and more indians fans in there gradually, I know during football that is a browns place first and foremost

QUOTE(quade36 @ Mar 7, 2005 -> 05:21 PM) I am not cool, preppie, hip enough to go to the Grand Central. Personally, I like Roses right down the street. It is open til 4 and Rose is awesome. She's gotta be over 70. Plus the place has a record playing jukebox. How cool is that? The beer is cheap as well. The TVs are a little outdated, but its a dive and I always have a great time going there. The cub fans there aren't even rude. Its probably because they are homegrown cub fans and not imports from other states. Didnt need the judgements there, I go there cause i work there and cause cotts and adkins frequent there cause cotts is dating a bartender there. But in all honesty I think the best place to go would be birdsnest on southport and altgeld, best wings in the city and they have pabst in the can. PLus their food is awesome and it would be easy to take over. Not to mention the huge pic od old comiskey on the wall. we should try it our

I dont understand how this debate is still going on. Borchard is horrible, he will always be horrible, Timo is terrible as well, but hes all we have right now. And there is no hope of borchard making the roster, so lets give up on this debate. Its ruining the game thread, agreed????

no offense, but the debate between timo and joe seems pretty ridiculous, I mean, they are both pretty s***ty. I know they are reserves, but I still think there are ALOT of bench players than are better than both of them.

you would think Joe B would be faster than that

How about the 21 guests who are reading this thread join soxtalk???

QUOTE(ptatc @ Mar 7, 2005 -> 02:22 PM) Has anyone seen Tracey pitch before. Are his mecjanics always like this? I really dislike the mechanics. He never swings his arm below his shoulders and keeps his arm high throughout the motion. This causes him to sling the ball and always lean back. This makes his delivery very difficult to repeat. I can see why he has trouble with command. He needs to work on this or I doubt he will have an impact at the major league level. I believe he had to change his delivery due to arm trouble, am I wrong?

gotta love tivo

and we are live and going. Didnt need to hear that national anthem from the previous broadcast though, it was weird.