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Why would the Braves trade Jason Heyward? He was the top prospect in baseball a few years ago. He still has a huge amount of upside and few more years under team control. I think you are over estimating the value of Peavy. He will get a decent package back but nothing close to Heyward.

I would be intrigued by a package that would start with Kris Medlan. The guy kind of has fallen out of favor. He has put solid K/9 numbers in the past. If you could take him on with a few mid level prospects that would be an intriguing package.

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Does anybody know where we sit right now or at least know a range?

There is no way Carlos is on this team come Spring Training. You could see see teams like The Braves, Marlins, Rangers, Cardinals and Red Sox all be in on him. I like our chances of getting a good size haul now that Albert is out of the market. Kenny can pull the Scott Boras move and wait till all the chips have been played. A few teams left out who need some power and boom you have a good package.

Grew up with Mark Buehrle being my favorite player for the White Sox. He was always a class act. Always kept things fun. Always said the right things when things were not going right. Thanks for all the great years MB!!!

Rumor has it that the Braves are shopping for an impact bat and willing to part ways with both Jurrijans and Prado. I really so the White Sox having any use for these two guys. Maybe Jurrijans since he is young cheap starter, but they have a fantastic farm system. I wonder if they would take Thorton and Quentin for some of those good prospects they have over there.

Last I heard he was looking for a MLB Invite. http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/18687/winter-leagues-roundup-milledge-thriving

I was wondering if anyone is willing to give Milledge a shot at a major league position like center or left. I remember him having all kind of tools but not putting together at his younger age. He does have some attitude issues but maybe the ego has been toned down do to lack of success in the big leagues. He put a pretty decent season and could be a potential lead off man for the White Sox. He is only 26 years old and will come cheap. We all know the White Sox like to find the diamonds in the ruff. He hit in the low .270's when he did get a chance to play and to be honest for a highly touted prospect he really didn't get too much major league time to develop. Lastings Milledge: ABS: 444 Average: .293 Home Runs: 12 Runs: 61 RBIS: 48 Stolen Bases: 27 Caught Stealing: 6 Link to Fan Graphs Page: http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playe...amp;position=OF

QUOTE (Wedge @ Oct 13, 2011 -> 01:47 PM) If it's $110 million, that's great news. A lot more flexibility than I feared. The four biggies for 2012 are Peavy at $17, Rios at $12.5, Dunn at $14, and Konerko at $12. So $55.5 for the big contracts. Other money on the books: $6 for AJ, $7 for Floyd, $5.5 for Thornton, $4.5 for Crain, $2.5 for Ohman, $1 for Santos, $3.25 for Viciedo, and $5 for Ramirez. So another $34.75. I believe Quentin, Danks, and Beckham are all arbitration eligibile. My guess is the Sox would be lucky for that group to sum to $20M. This doesn't account for De Aza, Humber, Lillibridge, or Flowers. Even with those guys, I count 6 more roster spots that need to be filled. That's $110M before counting the low salary guys and adding anybody (or picking up Frasor's option). You have to figure Buehrle is a casualty unless they trade somebody.

I think the thread makes a ton of sense. This will put more pressure on ownership to deliver a more competitive product on the field. 1. Theo coming in with one of the largest contracts ever for a general manager. Rickett is very intrigued by sabermetrics and would imagine Theo has all the ability to make any moves he wants with the club. I bet the rumors of a trimmed down payroll are false. The cubs are in a mess right now, but a general manager with money who knows where to spend( draft picks and internationally) can turn around a franchise in a hurry. I would expect the Cubs to be very good in three years or less. 2. Consequently, the White Sox better get there act together. I know they only compete with the Cubs on the field six games a year. But, financially they compete with the Cubs everyday. They compete with them for memorabilia sales, eyes balls watching the television, ears listening to the radio, and most importantly asses in the seats. To say how well the Cubs do does not effect the White Sox is very narrow minded. 3. So what can they do. They can start investing in high draft picks, and start building more in Latin America. For once, I would like a Top Prospect to become a superstar. The only guy that maybe can do that is Dayan Viciedo.

My problem with the hire is not Ventura, but the process that Kenny took to this job. Usually, in organization has interviews with other canidates. It seems to me that Kenny just decided by conversations over the years that he was the right man for the job. What happend to sitting down talking three or four different guys and seeing which one fits you philosophy best? I think Ventura could be good just from the standpoint that he can be one of the guys. My only wonder is if he would get rolled over by a player who has a dominant personality. I think for developing players he can do a very good job. Also, it is more apparent that before Ozzie ever left that Ventura would be the next manager for the White Sox. I just do not like how the White Sox go about there business sometimes. Also, for god sakes put some money into your farm system starting with Latin America and ending with paying more money for draft picks. Maybe you would not have as many prospect flops.

You have to think of what the team can get back too. Buehrle is a free agent who is most likely to retire before playing for another team. Danks and Quentin can gain the whitesox some quality prospects as they come with first round draft picks the following year. Also, it seems like both guys are determined to hit the open market so the chances of us in reality signing them are slim to none. The White Sox have always been lets rebuild on the fly while competing for championships. At least if they sign Buehrle they can tell the fan base they have a chance. I would not be opposed to trading somebody like Alexi as he going to get really expensive in the last few years of his contract. Also, there might be a chance he is older than what he said coming into the league. Again, it is all about trade solid assets for quality youth players while trying to compete at the same time.

So a couple of things that I think should happen our. 1. Resign Buehrle: The White Sox are not looking good for the future so they better keep one of the guys that is a fan favorite. Plus, he is still a quality pitcher. I think a 3-30 million dollar is appropriate. 2. Trade Danks and Quentin: I know this would be a dramatic change for the White Sox. It is clear both guys want to hit the open market and I don't think we are going to be able phony up the cash to keep them around for the long term. I think we could get quality prospects for return since a team would get there production for one year and draft pick compensation if they sign elsewhere. 3. Clear room for the kids to play. I mean let Flowers and AJ split time behind the plate. Viciedo should have a starting spot. I am not a huge Morel fan as his plate dicipline is just terrible but getting a third baseman in the open for cheap is pretty much impossible. Also, would like to see Lasting Milledge get some playing time with the White Sox as he put up decent numbers in Triple A this year and was once a prize prospect. 4. Clearly, starting pitching is something that will give the White Sox an ulcer over the offseason. I think maybe we can stockpile a few arms with some trade. 5. FIRE GREG WALKER. I know its not all his fault, but clearly the guy didnt do a great job the last few seasons with the White Sox. Every young hitter that comes up does well to begin with than struggles. Thank you for listening. I appreciate any feedback. Go Sox!

Went to the game last night. Can anybody tell me the theme song that play when he goes to bat? Thanks.

Stop trying to sell me car insurance.

On a side note, Greg Walker must be removed as hitting coach.

I was just wondering if anybody likes seeing Juan Uribe do well in World Series? He was my favorite player when he was with the White Sox. I know that is a little weird. I still remember the two unbelievable plays to end the World Series. I believe one of the overlooked keys to the 2005 team was the strong play by the left side of the infield that year. Also, we need to get rid of Greg Walker.

I was thinking that even though we probably lost the division and will not make the playoffs, how much I like this roster. So, I know we are going to make changes because of payroll issues, but if you could would you like the White Sox to comeback with the same exact roster.

Just for some fun lets throw out another trade possibility. Sox Get Howie Kendrick Gary Matthews Adrian Gonzalez Cash Angels Get Alexi Konerko Daylan Viciedo Padres Get Top Propect from Angels Maybe two Hudson Jordan Danks

There is no way this would be that easy for the White Sox. Some questions that may come up like Why would the Angels want to pickup Konerko's salary and trade away prospects when they are looking for ways to keep their own guys? The only way they do this is if they lose some salary in the process. Sox Get: Gary Matthews Jr. Adrian Gonzalez Cash from Angels Padres Get: Anahiem Top Prospect Hudson and Flowers Anahiem: Shed Gary Matthews Jr Contract Paul Konerko This would mean that we would be gaining about 19 million in salary for this year. We would be shedding Konerko's contract. Plus, the angels throw in about 3 million for the next 2 seasons.

Wow! I did not know this post would blow up. I just want to say I started this thread as an idea. NO KNOWLEDGE OF ANYTHING.. Its just an idea. Its not even a rumor. A couple things to keep in mind. 1. Alexi would be a key part of this deal in my mind. San Diego has a huge latin market and Alexi would fit right in. Also, you have to give them a proven major leaguer to justify the deal. 2. People who say this would ruin our farm system. You are totally correct. But, lets think back to two years ago when all of these guys in the current trade were not even with the White Sox. Farm systems can built quickly and only are speculative. Plus, If we did get Gonzalez we would most definitely have a replacement for Konerko when his contract up. You make the trade thinking the guy will be part of your organization for the next 6 years not 2. 3. Petco is a huge park. The Cell is a small park. He would hit 45 homers here. 4. We would be instantly favorites for the division and be in the top 3 most likely to win it all. 5. Bringing a player like Adrian to the Cell would certainly make wanting to stay here a priority for John Danks and Carlos Quentin. Both have expressed willingness to talk about extensions this offseason.

I read in Rob Neyer's blog about the likely hood of Adrian Gonzalez being traded this offseason is becoming more of a reality. http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/i...nzalez-on-block I know I like to dream, but its the offseason. Here are Gonzalez's stats last year. SEASON TEAM G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS 2008 SD 162 616 103 172 32 1 36 119 74 142 0 0 .279 .361 .510 .871 2009 SD 160 552 90 153 27 2 40 99 119 109 1 1 .277 .407 .55 .958 The man is a beast going into his prime. Also, he is rather cheap at this point making about 10.5 million( total) in the last 2 years of his contract. This all concludes to that it will take an arm and a leg to get him. But, he provides something we need which is a left handed power hitting slugger. This trade would be much like the Prince Fielder rumor that was thrown around. Package would start with Alexi, Hudson, and Flowers. This would be enticing to them since it would provide three quality players they could plug in on the cheap. Problem is this really depletes are farm system. Plus, it would mean we would have insert Jayson Nix into the starting role. I am a nix fan, but some of you would rather him be off the roster. The Lineup would look alot like this: Pods( if resigned) or Jordan Danks Beckham Quentin Gonzalez Konerko Piezenski Rios Teahen Nix I think the lineup would be pretty nasty. Again, our farm would take a beating and we would be in a must win now situation. Also, I have my doubts that San Diego would accept that package. Just wondering what some of you think. Also, I know people will be skeptical, but understand I am just throwing suggestion out there.

If we are doing just pure speculation and fun. How about Poreada and Dotel for Brandon Wood.

http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index...%3dolney_buster In the article, he talks about the money given to the likes of Carlos Silva and Jarrod Washburn in the past couple of years. Ben Sheets this winter will be lucky to receive a two year,20 million dollar deal. This a little crazy? He has never posted an ERA over 4 and last year pitched 200 innings. I realize that he is an injury risk and does cost us a draft pick. But, if Cabrera signs with a team before June than it can almost be a wash. Plus, it is not like we have a high draft pick this year anyways. He would fit nicely into are rotation making it the best in the division with Buehrle, Sheets,Danks,Floyd and Colon. That would be a fantastic rotation turning a weakness into a strength. Also, this would allow other guys to get full development down in the minors especially Aaron Poreda. This would allow Clayton Richard to develop out of the bullpen last year where he was very effective. It would only cost the White Sox 3 years for 30 million dollars. Plus, Our rotation would be set for the next 3 years except for the fifth stater spot which would provide the Whitesox with some stability. I know you have to come up with the cash and it seems people are reluctant to do that these days, but I have a feeling next winter Ben Sheets could have gotten 13-15 million per season.