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I wonder if the first pick ends up being an overslot guy tomorrow with the idea of seeing how much you can save today with the last several picks. Tonight you would check around to see what high end talent number could have gone down from the last several days.

Just from watching him tonight one thing he can work on is keeping his delivery consistent. He tends to speed it up and slow it down quite a bit throughout the ball game. He actually threw some nice change up in there tonight but he seems to have no ability to control pitches. Cooper needs to make his money on him. I wonder why they went away from his 12-6 curveball. I thought it was his best pitch coming from the Nationals.

Honestly, I would not mind seeing him in the closer role if we move Alex Colome. I think he could be a guy that sees his stuff tick up if only used for one inning and could be better served if he just had to focus on using 2 pitches. If the Eaton trade gives us Giolito as a Top of Rotation Guy, Lopez as a closer, and Dunning- Back of the Rotation or Future Trade Piece. That is a hell of a trade for us.

Man, I don't get the phone call bit they are showing on the broadcast. It looks really bad. Just have the host read the pick.

Anthony Rendon 5/150

I do think the White Sox offer is probably greater than this but I wonder if a leak like this makes the negotiations go south on some level. Pretty much everybody in baseball is currently shaming the White Sox for being cheap. This would piss me off if I was an owner.

Why does everybody ignore that Anthony Rendon is a free agent next year.

Jake Burger will not be ready for another 2 years. At best he comes back in June and will at least a year and half of seasoning. That is "if" he is still able to play 3rd base which was a concern even before the multiple achilies tears.

I was the person who you are referring to and the amount was 2/48 million dollars which would equate to 24 million a year. The point being is that we probably have about 40 million dollars committed to next year which is probably 100 million dollars less than if they were competitive. I would rather have the White Sox try to use the room to sign higher average annual value but with lower years attached. It does not make me sleep better watching Yolmer Sanchez play third base while Jerry is making an extra 100 million dollars on the year because the White Sox are not investing in the team. Yes, that is alot per season but overall the dollar amount does not come with much long term risk. Donaldson was a 5 WAR player 2017, if he was healthy this year he would be paid in excess of 150 million dollars. He is not so it might be a good opportunity to improve the team. And if he is healthy for the first half of the year, you could easily flip him for young talent.

I would like to see the following: Sign Donaldson (2 Year-48 million) to play 3B Sign McCutchen (2-36 million) to play CF- I know he can't really field the position but hopefully you can move him to RF when in one year. Let Jordan Guerraro and Stephen pitch in September. I am not saying take the ball every 5th day but it would not hurt for them to get 2 starts in before the end of the year. I would try to sign somebody like J.A Happ to a (2 year-40 million) One good thing about having a very low payroll is you can give guys higher AAV than most teams without long term commitments.

My hope is this off-season they can correct him and he feels more comfortable with his arm being healthy. I read while in college he had arm issues which I wonder caused command issues. Just pure speculation on my part. At the very least, he is still striking out everybody when he gets the ball over.

Is there a thought to just bring him up to AAA at this point. I know he is moving fast through the system but what is the point of being AA. He is just so much better than the rest of the competition at this point. The other option is to let him throw lesser amount of innings the rest of the way. He is already has 20 more innings on his arm than last year. Should you take it easy on him and let him top out at like 140 innings this year.

I think we have a tendency to get into prospect/rebuild mode and want to trade everybody. I would much rather move forward with keeping Rodon with a large extension. At some point, The White Sox need to pay somebody, for me its the lefty going into his prime throwing 98. I would hate to look back next year and think we traded the two best left handed pitchers in the American league.

I would second what most people are saying in regards to the Cease timetable. He already had Tommy John Surgery and didn't break the 100 inning mark last year. If he can follow a similar path as Hansen did last year with post around 150 innings between High A and AA this year that would be a really great season. I would expect Hansen to be in the minors all of this year with spending the majority in AA. This way he would be ready by Mid-2019 for the majors. In all reality, the Championship window starts in 2020. Maybe they can compete for a Wild Card next year but the pitching staff won't be fully settled until 2020.

I didn't understand the 68 win over/under bet in Vegas because the division is just so bad. The White Sox playing the Tigers and Royals alone will allow them to get over that hump and really The Twins are a beneficiary of a poor division. I do not believe they are a good club at all.

I actually thought that Kemp has made sense for the White Sox for awhile now but only with a trade that would equate to us getting 36 million( what Kemp is owed) dollars worth of young players back. The White Sox could easily consume the 18 million dollars per season on their payroll for the next 2 seasons. I for one do not believe that we will be able to contend until 2020 when Kemp gets off the books anyway. Also, I am not optimistic on the chances of the White Sox getting Manny Machado or Bryce Harper next offseason. What would the trade look like. I would take some combination of the three. Yadier Alverez ( #6 in Dodgers Org) Starling Heredia (#17 Dodgers Ord) Jordan Sheffield (#18 Dodgers Org) Will Smith (9# Dodgers Org) Now as somebody mentioned the Dodgers really don't operate this way but it would be worth exploring especially since the White Sox would not need to grab their top guys rather add depth pieces. Kemp would be interesting as a left fielder/DH with the White Sox.

That is nothing for a guy that had an OPS of 868 last year. First thought is Mike Moustakas is probably going to be very disappointed. Second thought is do you think we overpaid for Wellington Castillo given what has happened to the middle tier free agent veteran market. 2/15 Million contact. I am wondering if Lucroy receives more than a one year contract.

I don’t get the Casey Gillespie love.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Dec 21, 2017 -> 01:19 PM) Definitely -- Ramos is the get there. It could be Ramos straight up and I think I'd be happy. I think the problem is the outfield market is nothing right now. I think Lorenzo Cain will be lucky to break 50 million dollars and he has been a 4 Win player 3 of the last 4 years.

I wonder if MLB steps in here and pressures The Sox to See it through in court. It would set precedent for other athletes to sue stadiums. Imagine if Paul George sued the Team USA for his injury.

Hey Soxtalk Friends, Right now as presently stand this is the current White Sox Rotation: Rodon Shields Fulmer Lopez Giolito. Rodon may not break camp as he is recovering from surgery so their is a possibility of him not pitching until May. Giolito is on the block with the Machado trade rumors so who knows what will happen. But, lets say for this exercise that he remains with the club and is part of the rotation. We would likely experience injuries or under performance by one or more starters this year. I believe White Sox should not pickup a veteran starter. So here is the best case scenario for picking up a starter on a one year deal. You sign him, he has a monster first half and you trade him for a B level Prospect and maybe a flyer. The White Sox would have more to gain using those starts on their own B-Level Prospect Starters like Stephens, Adams and Guerrero to battle it out in Spring Training. All three spent significant time in AA last year and will likely start the year in AAA if they do not make the major league roster. All three have shown some flashes of big league talent and this year is the time to see if they can become a back end starter or more. Shields is likely to be traded(hopefully) midseason and that slot will likely open up. I suspect though the White Sox have correlated Shields leaving with Kopech arriving to the big leagues. I know that they could each stand to gain to have at least half year in AAA but in a year from now are the White Sox going to have space in the rotation to really find out? Wouldn't it best serve the White Sox to know what they have before next off-season?

Man and I was pumped up about the Rule 5 Draft tomorrow morning.

I bet the offer is Giolito and Anderson. This would allow Machado to play SS. How awesome would it be though if it was a three way with the Yankees. AGAIN THIS WOULD NEVER HAPPEN. Yankees: Machado O's: Giolito Anderson White Sox: Ellsbury-Plus 10 Million Torres- Top 5 Prospect Sheffield-Top 40 Prospect- not updated but I just suspect Frazier- Not the biggest fan but ya know they are shopping him. Yankees: Get their Short Stop of the Future and Rid themselves of Machado. Immediately can sign him to a 10-$300 deal. Get rid of that ugly contract O'S: Get to a short stop to replace Machado and a starting pitcher White Sox: Ellsbury- Is actually a useful player just not start quality. Say we get 10 million from the Yankees. That pay down the contract to 56 Million/3. Roughly a little less than 19 million per season. Torres: Could pretty much immediately replace Anderson at Short Stop. Sheffield- Reports from Law and Longenhagen were extremely high on his AFL. I would not doubt he jumps inside the top 40. Frazier- Probably my least favorite prospect of the bunch.

I know I am late to this party but can a White Sox Reporter please ask Rick Hahn he decided to keep Jacob May instead of Jordan Guerrero? I have to believe their is some other issue that was at play here.

I think STL should really consider moving their chips to the table. Flaherty, Hudson and Bader would be an interesting get for O's. St. Louis has the money to extend Machado. They could really make a run at the Cubs in 18' with that lineup. Also, Put me in the boat unless it is a very minimal prospects the White Sox should just be patient.