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QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Jun 30, 2017 -> 08:00 PM) Well said! So many. Any other teams rival the Sox in pitching depth? Atlanta still has the best pitching depth in the minors. The Sox are not far behind though.

You know I really do think it is time to see Reynaldo. I am huge fan of him and think that with some Cooper instruction he could be an a top level arm. I am extremely glad how the White Sox have taken it slow with him and most of the prospects this year compared to years past but I think it is time for him to come to the majors as he ready for his next step in development.

Thanks for the heads up.

QUOTE (Knackattack @ Jun 21, 2017 -> 09:11 PM) I'm sure plenty of teams will come calling about Avi and some one will likely pay for way he is producing right now, so I'd start the conversation with St. Louis asking for Kelly You have to figure that they are ready to deal Kelly as they signed Molina to a 3/60 million dollar deal. I don't know why they did that but they did. Beyond the Cardinals though, I can't really figure another team that has a deep enough farm system and willing to part with the prospects. A team could always go with a short term rental like McCutchen as the Pirates will most likely deal him at the deadline. He is controllable for more year after this season.

I think that at this point you have to be hopeful that he is a high leverage reliever who is being used as a starter and wearing down as the season progresses. In the draft their was a thought that his small stature may lend to that type of pitcher. I wonder if you put him on the Disabled List and let him catch his breath a bit. Then you could have him come back in the pen for the rest of the season. He may be pissed at this but it seems that could be best for the player long term.

QUOTE (BamaDoc @ Jun 19, 2017 -> 03:35 PM) I think when the midseason rankings come out, the differences between these players will narrow and some may even switch. I would just like to see moves being made because I am bored and I understand a bad move is worse than no move. If Frazier goes, I think you get to evaluate Davidson in the field over time and see what Delmonico's bat might look like at DH. I agree with this as Fowler was a legit prospect coming into this year. He has only continued on his success this year. He is probably a Top 75 Prospect if not higher. Also, He plays centerfield which would be nice for the Sox. Something to note is Andujar did get promoted to AAA yesterday. He too would be a huge get as he is probably rated the best defensive 3B in the minors right now.

You have to hope that Tampa stays in the race. The only reason why Rizzo has not done the deal yet is to hopefully have more options towards the deadline. Alex Colome is better, younger and cheaper than Robertson.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 19, 2017 -> 02:38 PM) Gleyber needs TJS....yikes What is even weirder is that it is his non throwing arm but better for the Yankees. I have to believe that the Yankees and White Sox make a deal. Quintana and Frazier make so much sense for them unless they feel like they will lose out to the Red Sox not matter what. They certainly do not have the pitching to maintain their record the rest of the way.

Reynaldo being pulled with 95 pitches. The extra errors hurt him a bit. Honestly really looking forward to his promotion. I don't think it will be long now.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jun 17, 2017 -> 10:30 PM) http://nypost.com/2017/06/17/cashmans-trad...an-starter/amp/ He would cost the kind of prospects who would help alleviate some 40-man roster crunch — this is made up by me: Adams, Frazier, Mateo and Estevan Florial. He is just 28 and lefty. Plus, he is under control through 2020, and how his team-friendly deal is structured Quintana would cost just $5.3 million toward the luxury tax payroll next year. The Yankees would have plenty of competition for Quintana, notably from the Astros. But a lot of Cashman’s history points toward him as a real possibility." Florial is another guy that looks interesting on paper. He reminds of Jared Kendell from Vanderbilt with all the tools but with serious bat to ball issues.

I guess my thought is why would I trade him for just a top 60 prospect? He is only 26 years old and just starting to develop his power. Everyone thinks that his average will likely go down due high BIBIP( which is true) but what if his power still has room to grow. He has 16 double on the season what if those start turning into homers. His ISO Power has already gone up considerably. His bat to ball skills have improved as well with his K% dropping by four points. He may never be a guy who walks a ton but to assume that their is no more room for growth at 26 years old is foolish.

Kelly+Weaver+Perez. I doubt the Cardinals would pull the trigger as they are really hurt by the lack of picks. Arguments for Cards doing it. Kelly is blocked by Molina Perez has not even played this year and is likely 3 years away. Weaver is just a duplicate of Flaherty and Reyes is still their number 1 pitching prospect.

Why would the Rays trade Archer in their own division with them being 4.5 games back from the division and 1 game out of the Wild Card. That would deject their current roster and fan base. If Archer gets moved, I would think it would be to the west coast to either Dodgers or Rockies who could offer a premium package. Yankees and White Sox all along would make for a good marriage as long as the White Sox are realistic in what they get back. They would be doing good to get Frazier, Andujar, and Kaprielian. All three have big ceilings with some risk. At this point both Frazier and Andujar are top 100 guys with Kaprielian being a wild card with TJ.

Feel pretty confident Archer goes to the Yankees for a huge package. Tanaka got bashed yet again. Wainwright got destroyed as well. Cards in interesting position with Cubs scuffling. Why would the Rays trade Archer in their own division with them being 4.5 games back from the division and 1 game out of the Wild Card. That would deject their current roster and fan base. If Archer gets moved, I would think it would be to the west coast to either Dodgers or Rockies who could offer a premium package. Yankees and White Sox all along would make for a good marriage as long as the White Sox are realistic in what they get back. They would be doing good to get Frazier, Andujar, and Kaprielian. All three have big ceilings with some risk. At this point both Frazier and Andujar are top 100 guys with Kaprielian being a wild card with TJ.

Hell Yeah! Great Double Play Ball. Tommy does it again! He better be in the All-Star Game.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Apr 23, 2017 -> 06:43 PM) I would like that move. Anything to see a real CF. Where is Charlie Tilson?

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jun 15, 2017 -> 10:01 PM) You need teams with deep farms to be interested to get those types of returns. That is correct. You will have the Astros, Yankees, and Dodgers all would want a guy in Kalhne. If there is one thing we learned from the past 2 playoffs it is that you want as many high leverage relievers as possible. Teams are learning in the playoffs having the best bullpen pieces can win you a series. See the KC Royals Run or the importance of Cleveland's pen last year. What I'm getting that is a starter is sometimes brought in for to get a team to the playoffs but relievers can be valuable to teams that don't even need the boost.

If we trade him I want an Andrew Miller Type return with 2 top 100 and a lottery ticket coming back. He is in the class of Chapman, Kimbrel, and Miller. You can make the case he does not close and has not done it for as long but you can see the adjustment he made and the stuff has always been there. If you truly believe that he is legit than you don't settle for anything less. Willie Calhoun is a nice bat but he does not have a position and plays in Vegas which inflates the Home Run Totals.

It really is amazing how patient the White Sox have been with Hansen. It will be interesting to see how well he performs in Class A Advance seeing that Dunning was putting up video game numbers in Kannapolis and has since "cooled off" in Winston Salem.

I just had the same thought. I hope Shields replaces Holmberg in the rotation with Holmberg returning to the pen as a long reliever. He has done an excellent job but they are asking a great amount of innings from the bullpen. We really don't have a starter who consistently goes deep into games with Quintana struggling and Rodon yet to make his debut. On a different point, I am interested to see what they do with the likes of Gonzalez, Holland and Shields at the deadline. I think the Sox would be smart to find a team who would take a salary dump for Shields. Hopefully, He performs well enough to be dealt. Holland could probably net a lottery ticket or 2. I think Arizona could be a good match for him. I would love to see Jordan Guerrero, Tyler Danish, Reynaldo Lopez and Matt Cooper all get shots at starting at some point this year even if it is only a few start for some of them.

Thank you for participating. This year has been fun not only because the big league club has some success but the system finally has some upside.

Just curious, What is his injury and timetable?

Yusniel Diaz got 15.5 million dollars. I have to think the price will be around there.

Our leading home run hitter hurt. Bad luck again for the Sox. We can look back on this as the reason we didn't win the division.