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Yeah forgot about Brooks. 24 TD/8 INT? I'll take it. I think the fact that we are even talking about McNair, Culpepper, McNabb, Brooks and Vick in the context of SuperBowl/MVP says something. Even if they "only" end up being Top 10 QBs in the NFL says that they are "good"......dispelling decades of doubts and stereotypes that culminated in Greek's colorful rhetoric. Rush Limba, eat your black little heart out.

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Whoa. Do you realize that in the 3 of his first 4 full seasons in the NFL, playing without Green/Staley/James-type back to take some heat off of him, Culpepper still averaged a 64% passing rate, 7.50+ per completion and a 93 QB Rating ......beating Manning, Brady and Farve among others? Plus he ran for a bunch of yards. At only 26, he is just ENTERING into his QB prime. And that he, Vick and McNabb (McNair already got one) will some day be MVPs there is little doubt. And McNabb made it to NFC 3 times already. McNair was a yard away and might win it next year. Vick will have 15 years to do it. Culpepper will win with Vikings in the next 5 years. IMO, Black QB's are just gettin' started.

To secret agent loser....to HSC/Miles.....to Hawk vowing to get Mariotti....to Ozzie's "you so negative".....to the rambling student.....to "I am not finished....neighbor".... Please tell me there was a Soxtalk-WSI smack talk later on Pleeeeeeeaaaasssseeee....

BILF won over Clisters in 3 sets. Her first AO title. Second slam in a row. She is Michael Chang of WTA, tremendeous heart.

. Correction: NFL, NBA and maybe even track portion of track-n-field. . I asked a question. If there is no difference, then pick a third option. But statistics say those are Black Dominated sports. Both sports used to be "White" which makes them different from hockey and tennis because they were never "Black" per se, nor do Blacks seem to be interested to excel in hockey or tennis in a way Whites dream about being shooting guards/running backs........ Norway never spoke Spanish. Nobel laureates - never bestowed upon 5th grade rejects. Gymnastics and ballet -- always rooted out fatties mercelessly first during childhood rounds, then in post-pubertal ones. Etc, etc, etc.....And your analogies had very little to do with "race", which this thread is ALL about. . Incorrect. Chess clubs were available, sure- as they are here. Schools for especially chess gifted? Yes. But normal schools never (at least not recently) had a "chess" class as part of carriculum, certainly not for elementary-age kids. Beats me. Wanna start a new thread? . Very true. Toilet paper, not so much. Well, for such a poor country.....an average "soviet" IS more educated/read than an average American. Calculus was studied in a 8-9th grades. Collections of poetry having to be memorized for a 7th grade lit test.....100s of 15-16yo competing for a single spot in regional universities....That kind of stuff..... I don't think so either. But this topic is not about Blacks' superiority in chess, is it? Non-whites may learn to play chess quicker, but the sport is still dominated by Whites, although not nearly as much. Because analogies are not born equal. Verbally/logically, you can make a parallel with anything and call it a day. But it doesn't mean that you can point to "red-heads and gymnastics or Norwegians and Spanish language and use it to prove or discredit a hypothesis made about, say, race and sports. And vice versa. . My wildlife comment was admittedly out-there. Other than that, I asked more questions than made statements. Why? Because I myself do NOT know the answer. Irrelvant is an ugly word. I prefer "slightly less relevant"....especially when you use them as spring board to dismiss everyone's opinion here as crap. Um....yes! To be fair, my quesiton was more about Blacks than Whites cuz with the former it could be either a natural advantage OR centuries-long lack of opportunity compounded by the mentality-altering oppression. The slave-breeding theory is something I heard many times....ditto for fast-twitch fibers and plasma testosterone one. However, basketball being dirt cheap to play, unlike tennis or golf, and its identity-defining, cultural popularity aspect-- they too could provide the answer. As could better work ethic. I thought your post was facetious. I stand corrected. And yes, I did ask for your opinion because as someone who is brighter and more experienced than myself, you could provide a different angle for looking at the issue at hand. Many people gave their honest, NOT-so-simplistic theories here. I am just looking for an aswer if there is one. If it's simple, than so be it. If it's NOT-- accordingly. I thought it was a good thread. That it started out as bait for Israel4ever and Apu....should not diminish its on-topic merit; you yourself commended it having "seome of the best on-line writing" you've ever seen, no? It was one of the few "interesting" threads I've ever read on SoxTalk off topic board. I have NO regrets......And as long as this thread doesn't desintegrate into n*gger/cr*cker insult-fest, I see nothing wrong with it. Let's get back to the Blacks in NBA/NFL/track

You see only what you want to see and your humorous analogies have little to do with anything. This is no a clear-cut issue, hence all the different and often preposterous theories.

If you don't look/behave "Black" and have a puny, "un-Black" voice, your rhyming or beat skillz don't matter much. Audience will reject you. Eminem is an exception.

Culpepper, Vick, McNair, McNabb are gonna win a ring or two before it's all said and done. Might actually have a league MVP each. Hell, even worthless Cordel Stewart made it to the AFC.

Agassi did not bring his A game and yet he was literally within a couple of points on his serve in the first 2 sets from going to the final. When you fall behind by 2 sets, it very hard to pull off a comeback against a tough player playing his best. Andre should only blame himself for choking. Safin is an enigma. His own worst enemy, real anger issues-- and in tennis when you get angry, you lose. Still, he was a 2000 USO champ and a former #1. Talent-wise, he is only a notch below Federer, probably the most gifted player Russia ever produced and that includes his fellow top 3 talent underachiver Kefelnikov. If he can beat Federer on Sunday, that would very impressive considering Safin just recovered from wrist surgery,

Yeah, what with such boring players as Daytsuk, Kovalchuck and Gaborek and all.

PA, I thought I'd let it slide at first.... But the above merely means "he who lost"-- like in sports. What you wanted to use is "неудачник" Like Rex, you may forward money to my now-nubile secretary.

Lucher? What's the celtic word for Dylan Thomas?

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I wonder what FSJ, Tex, ss2k4, Cw, Spiff, jas, wite, yasny and a few others would say.

If anything, it's the NBA that will ave an infusion of Europenas, Africans, Asians, Latinos in the upcoming decades.

It was a wild (pardon the pun) speculation badly phrased. Ultimately, noone knows. But I watch Gale Sayers on tape and he sees the field and makes decisions so much faster like a chess player being ahead a few moves of his opponent

No I didn't Why would I I am only fluent in the language Silly me.

Without looking at stats....White pitchers outnumber Black like 5:1

Yeah, I know- most sports in fact are dominated by Whites-- there are so many Whites out there afterall. I was just wondering about the disparity present in basketball, football and maybe track-n-field sprint. Maybe Blacks have developed the ability to analyze the situation and make the decision (and command to the body to move earlier which helps the rynning back "bounce") faster due to the unforgiving nature of dangerous African wildlife. Or it could be the fast-twitch fibers %, wchich some people maintain is a myth-- that there is no magical shortcut. Plus what about Asians, Latinos, Indians and various mixes thereof.

Didn't Boston had a brotha who was pretty good a few years back? And what about Iginla?

s*** I didn't even realize Oprah had a birthday when I posted it. Happy 5-0 lady!!!

Nice try....

Tennis is like one of the most physical of all sports and Blacks haven't had much success in it outside of Williams Sisters and Arthur Ashe. Golf also supports the socio-economic theory. Then again, you know, track-n-field sprint.