Everything posted by South Side Fireworks Man
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Andruw Jones
Because of the way Boras operates, I highly doubt the Sox will sign Jones. Even if KW were to pick up the phone right now and tell Boras he's offering Jones 16M per year for six years (which would be overpaying by too much for Jones), Boras still would not advise Jones to sign right away. Boras would take that offer around to other GM's and stall for time, stringing KW along until Rowand signs somewhere. Then, when Jones is the only CF free agent left on the market, he'll demand a contract that beats what Hunter got. Some other GM will be foolish enough to pay it. By then the Sox are way behind on making other deals to trade for what they need. KW should offer Rowand $75M for 6 years and see if he can get the deal done right away.
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Who is KW talking about?
QUOTE(CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Nov 24, 2007 -> 11:11 AM) If you read the article this is what was in it ... Does that include getting two outfielders or one? "If we get the right guy, just one," Williams said. As far as Owens not being very good defensively , I disagree. He showed good range , good reads , and seemed very good at making diving catches. We all know his arm sucks. The "right guy" in the outfield Williams was talking about was probably Miguel Cabrera. With his bat in the lineup the Sox could afford to take a chance on Owens in CF. They'd have to anyway, because they would most likely have to spend all their trading chits to get him.
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Who is KW talking about?
Read it again. It's Linebrink. The context was the bullpen.
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sox looking at Crawford, Cabrera or Crisp?
QUOTE(BearSox @ Nov 22, 2007 -> 11:05 PM) question... could Crawford be our starting CF, or is he best at LF? LF
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sox looking at Crawford, Cabrera or Crisp?
QUOTE(GreatScott82 @ Nov 22, 2007 -> 10:53 PM) That maybe so.. but this team already has like 3 #3 hitters.. The Sox have zero true number three hitters. They have three great cleanup/fifth hitters.
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Orlando Cabrera in depth
QUOTE(StatManDu @ Nov 22, 2007 -> 01:30 AM) Attached are a few facts I dug up on Orlando Cabrera using various internet sites ... I pasted it on here or you can click on the attachment and enjoy StatManDu www.whitesoxalmanac.com HAPPY THANKSGIVING EVERYBODY! Great post! Happy Thanksgiving!
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Sox Interested in Cabrera
QUOTE(NCsoxfan @ Nov 21, 2007 -> 11:23 PM) Center fielder Jerry Owens and third baseman Josh Fields would be a good fit for Florida's needs, but the Sox might be short on the arms the Marlins are looking for, especially after dealing away Jon Garland this week. Add Gio and DLS and throw in Anderson. I doubt they would take it, but that's five young players.....
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Torii Hunter
QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Nov 20, 2007 -> 07:30 PM) We don't want to lock this thread. The bickering is over. Everyone stop. Are you stating that you know for a fact that the bickering is over or is that just your opinion?
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Torii Hunter
QUOTE(southsideirish @ Nov 19, 2007 -> 06:24 PM) There is no meeting. Oh???
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Torii Hunter
QUOTE(southsideirish @ Nov 19, 2007 -> 06:17 PM) You can quote me on this. The deal is done. Torii Hunter is a Chicago White Sox. It will be announced between now and next Monday. There is no doubt about it. I hope you're correct but...Why would he be meeting with Tom Hicks tonight if he already signed with the Sox?
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Arod Opts Out
QUOTE(BlackBetsy @ Nov 15, 2007 -> 06:58 PM) Yup. Deal apparently agreed to: $275 million over 10 years. Nice. Now that the figures have apparently been agreed upon, and assuming he hasn't actually inked the contract yet-- I wonder if another team swooped in and offered to match that offer would A-Rod accept? Supposedly he really wanted out of NY but nobody wanted to deal with Borass and his tactics (asking for 30-40M). Now that the terms are set, what's to stop another GM from telling A-Rod he'll match that offer and get him out of NY?
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Sox Interested in Cabrera
QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Nov 12, 2007 -> 04:04 PM) Well Richar/Owens is obviously the most glaring problem on the offense. I put them 1-2 because well I dont know who else you can bat 2nd in that line up. Just bat Richar 8th or 9th and slide everyone else up one slot.
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Sox Interested in Cabrera
QUOTE(RockRaines @ Nov 11, 2007 -> 01:55 PM) Ha! Ill give them Josh, Gio, Jerry, Nick and David. Go ahead take the whole bunch of them. LOL! We'll even throw in Sisco to sweeten the deal!
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Chad Qualls for Ryan Sweeney was talked about...
http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/artic...sp&c_id=cws Ryan Sweeney has raised his average from .214 to .262, with seven RBIs and four stolen bases through 18 games in Arizona. But the young outfielder has just a .262 slugging percentage, with 17 singles to show for his offensive output over 65 at-bats.
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Chad Qualls for Ryan Sweeney was talked about...
QUOTE(AWhiteSoxinNJ @ Nov 9, 2007 -> 04:35 PM) From MLBtraderumors.com: "Peter Gammons says that before the Astros got Michael Bourn, the White Sox pushed for a Chad Qualls for Ryan Sweeney swap." The article is from ESPN Insider so I have no link to it. I would have liked that.
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Torii Hunter
QUOTE(Reddy @ Nov 8, 2007 -> 07:06 PM) Hunter Article on whitesox.com looks like we REALLY have the inside track... seems he wants to play here over anywhere else... i'm expecting him to go to us at this point. Does this mean he's expecting a full no trade clause? If so, he's probably not getting one from the Sox.
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Cabrera Trade Speculation
QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Nov 6, 2007 -> 10:53 PM) To put things into perspective, Cabrera is 4 months younger than Josh Fields. I read today somewhere the asking price isn't nearly as huge as you would think. They want a young major league starter, a young major league position player and a prospect, a good prospect not necessarily the organizations best. I'm sure the price could rise if there's a bidding war, but acquiring him would make me very happy. So, would they take Danks, Fields and Sweeney?
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What about Crede for Crisp?
QUOTE(max power @ Nov 3, 2007 -> 06:56 PM) Nice screen name. I'll bet you got yours from a hair dryer. QUOTE(max power @ Nov 3, 2007 -> 06:56 PM) Is it long enough? Probably not.
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What about Crede for Crisp?
I'd rather the Sox trade Crede for something that's not readily available on the FA market.
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KW to make a strong push for Crisp?
QUOTE(BearSox @ Oct 31, 2007 -> 09:41 PM) that would be ridiculously stupid. We would ridiculously overpay two players over 30 years old who will not preform to the numbers they did last year, and instead of getting younger, we'd just get older. And your solution to fixing a 90 loss team is adding Crisp and Dejesus. Sure they'd save a ton of money, but they'd win the same amount of games with Fields in LF, Owens in Center and Crede at 3B as they would with Fields at 3B and Dejesus and Crisp in the OF. And they'd have to give up talent to get Crisp and Dejesus, not so to sign two free agents. BTW I wasn't necessarily advocating signing both Rowand and Hunter, I just said I'd rather do that than bring in Crisp, Dejesus and Furcal. (Although I would like Furcal to be one of KW's top targets.)
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KW to make a strong push for Crisp?
QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Oct 31, 2007 -> 08:10 PM) Why in the s*** would the Sox get Furcal, Crisp, AND DeJesus? I'd rather they sign Rowand and Hunter. They could use that $30M per year they're saving by not pursuing A-Rod. An outfield of Dye, Hunter and Rowand ain't too shabby and it would allow the Sox to carry a legit pinch hitter on the bench because Rowand and Hunter could play all three outfield positions and Dye can play the corners.
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Edgar Renteria
QUOTE(klaus kinski @ Oct 29, 2007 -> 07:01 PM) Yes I did-for 2 prospects? There goes one of the best and most realistic options to replace Uribe. The Sox better get a SS quickly or else pick up Uribe's option or renegotiate with him for an extension at a reduced salary for three years ($9M?). I'd hate to see the Sox buy out Uribe and then try to fill the hole at SS without any leverage or viable in-house option. I don't want to see Cintron on the team next year, let alone as the starting SS.
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Arod Opts Out
QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Oct 28, 2007 -> 10:39 PM) You're worried about OF Defense? Then I got news for you. We've actually got 2 more quality defensive OF's hanging out in winterball this season because they've been struggling with the bats. As soon as Crede is moved out of the way, then you put either Sweeney, or for defensive purposes, Pref. Anderson in CF, and you suddenly have one of the better defensive OF's in baseball with Owens's speed in LF. True, but then you suffer defensively with Fields at 3B. Again, the addition of A-Rod would offset much of that. It works for me either way, but I'd prefer Crede at third with Fields in LF and Owens in CF. I don't think Anderson will ever make it as a major league starter.
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Arod Opts Out
QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Oct 28, 2007 -> 10:31 PM) I dont care what it takes or how many years, you sign Arod. His impact to the financials for the franchise will offset his salary. You immediately trade Konerko to the Angels to restock the system a bit, and put Fields at first. Thome, Arod, Dye, and Fields would be serious power. Arod as he gets older could slip into the DH position, and he will break records in our bandbox of a park. The revenue from him would be silly. Agreed. Even if they don't trade Konerko, with ARod at SS, they could afford to put Fields in LF, Owens in CF, and Richar at 2B. That's three minimum salaried players in the starting lineup. Outfield defense would be a litle shaky, but ARod would more than offset that. Add a couple of solid bullpen arms, and the Sox are in business as serious contenders.
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Arod Opts Out
QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Oct 28, 2007 -> 10:27 PM) Care to guess the Texas Rangers' record the year before they signed ARod? 71-91. And they weren't exactly 2 years removed from winning it all. I know, but now A-Rod is already financially set for life. He's still going for the humongous contract, but this time I think winning is more important to him than it was when he signed with Texas. The fact that the Sox are just two years removed from the World Series and only one year removed from a 90 win season should help though.