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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 06:31 PM) The Dodgers would include Urias in a Sale deal http://nypost.com/2016/07/25/dodgers-would...ris-sale-talks/ If they could get this type of pitcher and a couple of top position players, they really need to consider that deal

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 06:04 PM) Here's a Sherman article Urias is available for Sale http://nypost.com/2016/07/25/dodgers-would...ris-sale-talks/ They need to seriously look at this one.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 05:58 PM) Oh f*** that. They are giving up Moncada. Sale and Q are worth Moncada headlined package. Sale has even more value than Q (not sure how much) so Moncada has to be in it. I've been saying he needs to headline the Q one. He should. Qs track record, contract and age speak for itself. If Hahn can't get Moncada that's a failure IMO. Reading the online reports from the "experts" most don't think as highly of Quintana because while he produces good numbers, he doesn't have the high end skill set to net that type of package.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 04:50 PM) The only way I will, is if they don't land Moncada back. He absolutely needs to headline this deal if Boston acquires Quintana. Considering the market and some of the returns lately, Quintana is worth Moncada and Benintendi+. Including both of those in a deal for Quintana seems like high. I can see one of them. We'll see how the market plays out.

QUOTE (Condor13 @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 04:47 PM) That's the one thing I fear will happen. The Sox will be in talks right up to the deadline and for a second straight year do nothing. All that means is that they didn't get a deal they liked. Would you rather them make a trade they didn't like?

QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 04:41 PM) And then for the Sox, nothing happens. That's fine. if nothing happens that means you wait until the off season. The advantage of waiting is that none of the contending teams are going to trade young talent on the MLB roster during the playoff race. However, they may be able to get one of them in the off season. It's not like Sale or quintana can leave this off season. The better deal might be in the winter.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 04:41 PM) Exactly. I trust Hahn because they don't have to move him. They could do it in the offseason. Same for Sale although I think Boston ponies up for Q rather than Sale. I'm confident they'll get the best deal available because like you said they don't have to move them. However, I'm sure there will be plenty of people who will insist there were better deals out there.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 04:07 PM) The crosstown is annoying. It doesn't have the impact anymore. The thing I miss about Ozzie is his complaints about Wrigley. I'm not sure I want to watch because there is some envy what is going on at the North Side. Their front office seems like a 180 compared to the Sox. Some of the offers in their trades will probably never happen again. The Twins fired their GM and are looking to the Cubs organization for a replacement. Do you think they might consider KW? The reverse of when the cubs stole McPhail from the Twins by offering him the President position instead of just GM.

At least 19 dead and 20 more injured in a knife attack. Edit: attacked a facility for the mentally disabled. Then turned himself in. How could someone do this to other people. This is awful.

QUOTE (shipps @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 04:25 PM) The more this drags on I see its going to be Q moved probably right before the deadline where the Sox get max value for him. Have that team throw in one more piece. Why would they trade him today or tomorrow no matter what is offered? You have to be sure you have allowed every team possible all the time allowed to put all their chips in. I dont see anything happening until the day of the deadline at the very earliest but most likely up until that last couple hours. Right they should only move now if the deal is truly astronomical because one team is trying to get the pieces before another. Otherwise wait until the deal improves.

QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 04:25 PM) Hahn doesn't move fast. I fear he's going to blow it. I hope I'm wrong. Most years it goes right up to the deadline which is a week away. I don't want the front office to rush it.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 03:13 PM) We ever figure out what this means? He happened to see JR in his limo and was giving him the high sign.

QUOTE (Sox Fan In Husker Land @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 01:54 PM) It's the Dodgers call. Do they want to win this year, and have another ace to go with Kershaw (who can opt out after 2018) for the future or do they try to hope to make the playoffs with their current rotation and hope Kershaw is able to pitch again this year? Here's a fun fact the Dodgers are 42-42 in games not started by Clayton Kershaw. They are 14-2 in Kershaw starts this year. They currently have a 2 game lead for the 1st WC, and a 2.5 game lead on the 2nd WC. Their current 4 man rotation is Maeda, McCarthy (coming off TJ surgery), Kazmir, and Norris. Urias, is back at AAA and on an innings limit. If they plan on making the postseason they need another quality starter point blank. Again looking at the free agent market available in the winter, there is nobody they can go out and buy remotely close to the caliber of Sale or Q for next year. If they want to win this year they better be prepared to dish out a lot of top prospects/young players for Sale or Q, and that includes Urias and De Leon. Kershaw is still very questionable with his spine issues. Hopefully this pushes them into the trade.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 02:40 PM) I don't like Hahn for personal reasons that go all the way back to how he treated people at Harvard Law...but mostly because he has done a pretty lousy job. I don't think Ventura is the best manager for the future of this organization. I have never underrated Sale or Q. The Q package would include Robertson and return Moncada, Benitendi, Kopech, Eduardo Rodriguez and Rusney Castillo with huge cash susidy for remaining dollars on that deal. There is absolutely no way that Quintana and Robertson bring that package.

QUOTE (Buehrlesque @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 11:42 AM) In a situation this extreme, there's no point in fighting perception. Due to his value being a bit tarnished by perception/name recognition/win total, etc., the Sox are just not going to get enough value in a Quintana trade to make it worthwhile. No GM is going to empty his farm system for a name that doesn't fully energize the fan base. Sale on the other hand... That's why they shop both and see which deal is better.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 11:02 AM) Eh, he still left it open that "people need second chances." I still think its funny. Its very funny if he referenced a moral compass for players in the past?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 11:08 AM) Why don't the Rangers, Red Sox, Blue Jays, Indians, Orioles or Astros care enough about this issue to protest? I guess we win the most politically active/protesting award for the AL this year. Why didn't the Twins, Angels and Rays protest? It doesn't mean they are a good team because they didn't protest.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 09:59 AM) Yeah, Q definitely has that "ocra" about him... The Delta State Fighting Ocra!

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 10:50 AM) It is pretty ironic as well that Theo basically said he would never acquire a guy like Chapman because of his "moral compass" Did he really say that? Thats more than ironic, thats bordering on political speak.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 10:37 AM) They have the money to sign him for whatever he wants. He is not a rental to them. Its not the money available its if he will sign the extension. The deal probably started out as the one player if he wouldnt sign an extension and is growing to more players if he signs the extension.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 10:54 PM) MJ might've gotten his father wacked and nobody in Chicago gave a damn then or now as the titles were rolling in. That was a might have based on some conspiracy theory and circumstantial information. There is no doubt about what Chapman did.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 07:27 PM) Under the system that they like, the clubhouse manager controls 100% of the dues and tips; he uses it to buy the food and give money to the underlings. Under what they don't like, the clubhouse manager takes 40% for himself, and then the organization takes the 60% to guy food and pay the underlings. I don't know if the are right or wrong, but concentrate on baseball, please. The issue is that in all other ballparks the clubhouse guy controls all the money and after buying the food and such distributes it to the other clubhouse staff. In this case he only controls 40% while the team controls 60%. The white sox want their dues and tips to stay in under clubhouse control not going to the team to control. Essentially the team is determining who gets the tips not the clubhouse manager. I can't believe people have a problem with the players sticking up for the "little guys" in the clubhouse. The players want their tips to go to the guys for which they are intended.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 05:55 PM) Ha good song but not the one I'll be using. I was wondering if anyone was going to catch the double use of the phrase. I should have figured you would. Your song is better.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 05:01 PM) So the clubhouse manager collects all dues and tips, then redirects 40 percent(!!!!) to himself, and the Sox are jerks for saying that is bulls***? I agree with them. It's not that. It's usually the clubhouse manager collects them all and after paying for the food and such he distributes it among the rest of the clubhouse staff. What Seattle is doing is only letting him handle 40% because he must give 60% of the money to the Mariners front office and then they determine how it is distributed. In other words the clubhouse staff do not have control of the money that the visiting players are giving to the clubhouse staff.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 06:00 PM) I think the sox get Moncada because Quintana or Sale aren't rentals. The value is there to give him up. It will be interesting to see if dombrowski folds.