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QUOTE (Jake @ Jan 1, 2013 -> 04:40 PM) I'm from rural Illinois and I don't think my reps have ever represented me. They go in there to push their ideology... And that's okay. What else would they do? This is true. His point was that many committees make decisions, so there is not input from every member. My point was that no decision would ever be made if 100 or more people had to be in on everyone before it made it to the floor. This is where the idea of "not every view was represented" came from.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 1, 2013 -> 02:37 PM) But that is our form of representative government. I don't feel that i should lose my representation in Congress and be left only with someone to vote "yes/no" on major bills. I agree in concept. But in reality that would get absolutely nothing done. I'm from a rural area here in Illinois. Believe me I want all views represented. Illinois politics is ruled by Chicago because of this. However, too many people trying to make one decision will lead to more indecision and no action.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 1, 2013 -> 11:54 AM) why should the process of governing be less democratic and less represenative? Why shouldn't everyone's Senators and Representatives have input into the process instead of just a select handful? I understand the sentiment that everyone should be represented however, nothing would ever get done. It's hard to get anything done with 10 people in one meeting let alone 100.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 28, 2012 -> 10:54 AM) Personally, the "As soon as it's official and AJ is gone, so we will start bashing him and telling some supposed stories out of school" routine, doesn't work for me. AJ was so hated and no one could play for him, that he signed 3 or 4 White Sox contracts. Rozner, who I really like, and Speigel, should be embarrassed they spent their show with this crap. Now, if they want to have someone actually speak on the record, that could be different. It's very common for all the garbage to come out about a player after they leave. Many reporters will keep things quiet while the player is is in town to maintain the relationship. However, as was said Rozner has always told stories about AJ. Many pitching coaches haven't liked him because he would call his own game regardless of what others, including the coaches thought. He was right many times, depending on the coach.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 04:58 PM) Im sure im not the only one that has had to wiggle out from under a barbell on the bench. I had a patient once who dropped one on the bridge of her nose and it shattered most of her facial bones. She had to have reconstructive surgery. So people do need to be careful.

I see the White Sox brought Andy Gonzalez back. This could be the big move we were waiting for.

QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 07:41 PM) Any deal that is well above any sort of criticism. That will never happen on this board. Someone will always hate the move.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 05:25 PM) Like just a few months ago, I think after this season it became official. I'm glad it happened now not in the 90's. I would have hated to have to turn down the job.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 02:48 PM) Meghan Montemurro ‏@M_Montemurro OF Nate Schierholtz officially agreed to 1-year contract w/Cubs. LHP Gerardo Concepcion cleared waivers & outrighted to Single-A Kane County Wasn't that the guy the Cubs signed from Cuba last year? When did the Kane County Cougars become a Cubs affiliate? When I worked there it was the Marlins and then it went to the A's.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 08:12 AM) Really? I didn't know that. That's a super useful bit of information. Interesting... Yes. If you only concentric (positive work) activity, there will be minimal to no soreness however, the mass and strength gains will also come much slower.

QUOTE (Jake @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 10:14 AM) Important note - certain lifts need a spotter when you do negatives! Yes, they do.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 12:52 PM) Again...people in this very thread have explained why it is vitally important to them to have their guns at home unlocked, loaded, and easily accessible. And in this case, it was a 20 year old. If his mother had secured her weapons better, he could have walked into Walmart and bought the same guns, unless he's been committed to a mental institution. Some people have said that not everyone. I've stated repeatedly that guns at home should be locked up.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 11:33 AM) Ptatc youve been making good points through out this thread. The problem with guns versus drunk driving, is that if you drunk drive you broke the law and therefore you can be subject to punishment. Conversely, if you are on the street and you fire your weapon in self-defense, and it ends up killing someone, you arguably have broken no law. I think we both agree that we want to stop innocent people being killed, its just how do we legislate against accidental shootings, if under current laws there is arguably nothing against the law? That is why handgun bans etc are useful tools, they allow people to be charged with a crime if someone innocent is harmed. I am always a proponent of punishing the person who did something wrong, as opposed to punishing society for the wrongdoings of individuals. I would agree with your point except that you need to start earlier in the situation. You can use a gun and drink legally. When they both become illegal is when you do something that can harm someone. Drinking then driving. Shooting an innocent person. I understand the situation of shooting someone could be legal in self defense but that is for the court to decide. My only point is that guns can be regulated without banning them just like many other situations (alcohol, controlled drugs). Punishments should be escalated this way.

QUOTE (Lamar Johnson 23 @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 11:06 AM) Does Victor Martinez play baseball? Does John Danks? John Danks is the better player and is worth more to a team. . He can do everything he is supposed to do. Victor Martinez can hit. He can't play defense. Pitching is always more important than hitting just in general.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 10:57 AM) You know those scary videos of foreigners in third world countries where men are all over the streets carrying machine guns and shooting them in the air sporadically? Apparently that's what the NRA wants the US to become. Remember those are the far extreme views. Not everyone who owns guns thinks that way. That is just a very vocal minority. The NRA does some very good things with creating and sponsoring gun safety courses. If everyone who owned a gun was required to take these courses, people like the mother of Lanza, would probably have had her guns secured better.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 10:54 AM) I called it a lame comparison because alcohol is relatively easy to make yourself. Most people can't manufacture their own guns. Good point. However, we used to make pipe bombs and things like that all the time before the information was readily available on the internet. Your point is well taken that the use of a gun makes it easier. But in a case like Newtown, I think that nutbag would have just tossed a homemade bomb (which are easier to conceal) into the rooms causing more damage. When someone is that nuts and is motivated, I'm not sure much would have stopped him.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 10:52 AM) If the fix is onsite police officers, than I have no problem helping to fund that. But I don't want non-official volunteers hanging around schools. But then again I typically have no problem passing referendums for most things education wise. I'm with you here. This entire week there has been a police car in each of our schools parking lot for an hour before school to an hour afyer it begins. Then again for an hour before school is dismissed until the students are gone. I know our police officers don't have much else to do in our little town but it's a good thing.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 08:55 AM) Now all of those lame alcohol prohibition comparisons can actually mean something now that people could create their own stuff at home. Do you really feel that it's worse for innocent people to be killed by guns than it is more a greater number of people to be killed by drunk drivers? In my view an innocent being killed is an innocent person being killed. I really don't care about how it happened. I care more about reasonable way to try to decrease them.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 20, 2012 -> 02:41 PM) I prefer a much more rounded routine with alot of change day to day because I feel it gives you a much more well rounded physique and caloric burn, however if you are looking for growth, focus is invaluable. If you really want to change it up only do eccentric or negative work. This type of activity is the strongest type of contract and will increase muscle mass the fastest. It is also the only way muscles gets sore.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 20, 2012 -> 10:27 PM) If you're in the business of selling dangerous weapons and you can't secure them, then too bad if you get penalized. People's lives are at stake. I doubt those who'd risk stealing guns are stealing them to protect their chicken coop. Hey, I resemble that remark!

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 20, 2012 -> 10:26 PM) He won't. Tyler Flowers is awful. I know we are a little out of MLB season and we may be forgetting some, but it was just a few months ago where we all wanted him gone because he wasn't a good enough back-up catcher. One that barely played. Now he's our starting catcher. Well, I don't think he will be. Hopefully Hahn has another move. This is the key. It's time to see how he produces offensively with consistent at bats. He did show flashes of MLB capabilties last year. We know it's an improvement defensively.

QUOTE (Tex @ Dec 20, 2012 -> 10:19 PM) Isn't punishing someone for having something stolen punishing the victim? True but it may make them run a tighter ship. That is why I would give them a chance to improve security. It's like securing controlled substances in a medical clinic. There are major fines if some of them go missing and you can lose your license to practice medicine. I'm not sure about jail sentences though.

QUOTE (Jake @ Dec 20, 2012 -> 10:15 PM) People keep talking about alcohol - - - several states have all liquor stores state-operated. This might help with gun sales? We do live in Illinois. Who would trust more with with design of a program to control of weapons sale: a private citizen or a state employee? (this coming from a state employee) In all honesty maybe it should be run by the State Police, they do run the FOID card system.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 20, 2012 -> 10:12 PM) Gun dealers who lose a gun pay a heavy fine for each missing gun. A missing/stolen gun used in a crime automatically gets the gun dealer to lose their business license plus a heavy fine. I like the first part. For the second part I would probably give them 1 chance to tighten up security before they lose the license. Unless it was an unreported missing/stolen than maybe a jail sentence should apply as well.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Dec 20, 2012 -> 10:08 PM) I imagine bs's point is that it's yet another incident of a law-abiding citizen's gun falling into the wrong hands and that this gun shouldn't even be available for someone to steal in the first place. Edit: xpost Again I don't think it is realistic to think that a total gun ban will happen. In my view as we've discussed it shouldn't.