ptatc

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Oct 6, 2011 -> 07:19 PM) Spend years of your life learning how to coach on a major league bench from a distinguished manager. No interview. Spend years of your life sitting in your living room or playing catch with your kids. You're hired. Accountability at the White Sox finest Mike Quade spent 20 years managing in the minors.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Oct 6, 2011 -> 07:22 PM) The fact is that they were both coaches, and Girardi was a bench coach. Robin Ventura had a lull of about 8 years after his playing career until he was hired as a manager. Hey, he coached 7th grade girls basketball for his daughter's team! Oh wait ....MLB players are worse behaved than 12 year old girls.

QUOTE (mcgrad70 @ Oct 6, 2011 -> 06:10 PM) I can't tell with most of clowns Reinsdorf has hired That's true. Every ownership has teams with at least 7 championships

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Oct 6, 2011 -> 05:07 PM) I asked for carlton Fisk and anyone who joined me was closer in reality than any of you other jokers - er I mean Soxtalk posters. It's the organizational thing. I look forward to success in 2012. KW said one of the requirements was that the manager get along with everyone not no one. Fisk would never be in consideration for manager.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Oct 6, 2011 -> 04:45 PM) We should've hired Jose Valentin, Dan Pasqua, Jeff Abbott, Chris Widger, or Greg Norton then. I'm sure they've all had as much coaching experience as Ventura while also having played the game. At least he knows where to get mail order drugs

QUOTE (Real @ Sep 28, 2011 -> 11:52 PM) Ozzie quit. Oh, it was already mentioned, the rest is irrelevant. Ozzie supporters, the 2-3 of you that are left, defend that s*** please. haha I expect deflection of the question though In defense of Ozzie, I think he is a good manager and will do well in Miami. However, he wore out his welcome here and it was time for him to go. He has a polarizing personality and he will always have a shelf life at any managerial position. He won't enjoy the same tolerance with Loria that he had with KW and JR. I see him in Miami no more than 5-6 years.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 08:14 PM) I honestly believe if Ozzie and his cabal keep quiet, he wins his battle with Kenny. He blew it by having Cowardly troll his extension request in public. I really think Ozzie is dumb enough to think that Chicago was going to be upset at the prospect of losing him, and that was how he would win against Kenny. I don't think Ozzie wins. JR has a history of siding with the GM who built the team (Krause) not the coach (Phil Jackson). I think it his philosophy that it is truly the players you are the most important part of the equation. That's why he keeps coaches and GM's so long. The next most important part is the GM who puts the players together. The least important is the coach of the players. This is why he prefers stability in management.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Sep 26, 2011 -> 09:40 PM) I don't even like ozzie as a person, and I'm sure many here don't. We can be happy about this. I'm not sure how many times you've met him but Ozzie is a good guy and is a lot of fun at a night out drinking. I know it was time for him to go and most people on this board did not like him as a manger, but to say you don't like him as a person is very superficial unless you have spent some time with him.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Sep 25, 2011 -> 04:18 PM) He always struck me as being in the mold of Ozzie, although better. I think he was more a recipient of incredible talent than being a great manager (Phil Jackson). I want to go in a completely new direction. Yes but none of them had as much of an ego or is as much of an a@@ as Jackson. Jackson's success was more player talent driven than anyone. The guy divorced his wife and started dating the owner's daughter in LA just to get the GM fired to take his GM position.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 16, 2011 -> 12:16 PM) Who would you assemble from this site to coach our beloved Sox? (GM) NorthSideSox72 - Solid understanding of players and leagues - Good with numbers - Thinks short & long term (Manager) lostfan - Has the ability to lead - Excellent communication skills - I think he'd be a good motivator - Brutally honest (Pitching Coach) fathom - Seems to know what he's talking about when it comes to pitching - Has watched more innings pitched than anyone on this site (Hitting Coach) southsideirish71 - Would not use a batting tee for players - Would remind hitters this isn't the NL (Advanced scouts) Kalapse, chw42, Jordan4Life, Greg Hibbard - The stat heads (Team trainer) ptatc - Only medic on this site that I'm aware of (Team beat writer) bozzie - speaks in 3rd person - loves writing about the team (Southpaw) greg775 - good at cheerleading (Beer vendor) knightni - will be fired in mid-April for consuming large quantity of beer while working (Batboy) Reddy - Only Soxtalk member that is within height/weight restrictions for Sox batboys Thanks, I appreciate the vote. However, been there done that. Unless you pay me Hefe Weizen (alot too.) I'm not going back to that job.

Chris Snopek I have his game worn green jersey, cap and socks from a spring training game.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Sep 15, 2011 -> 02:31 PM) It's impossible for a manager to both motivate a group of underachieving veterans and teach young players? Usually. Most managers find they relate to one much more than the other. I usually like the ones that help and teach the young guys and have a veteran leader "police" the veterans. To do this you need to have a GM who realizes this and brings in "character" veterans. I also do not like micromanagers. Allow the players to play.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Sep 14, 2011 -> 10:13 PM) Peyton Manning's problem is different. No it's not. The only difference is that one is in the cervical spine and Crede's was in the lumbar spine.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Sep 14, 2011 -> 03:24 PM) Then again, he's a QB. They get hit like once or twice a year now with the pussification of football. So true.

QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Sep 14, 2011 -> 03:38 PM) I've never personally met him but I would not have guessed that based on everything I've seen, heard and read about AJ. He's made a few funny commercials. He was part of the "3 stooges" along with Rowand and Crede in 2005. IIRC, they were Joe, Row & Po. I know he can get under the skin of opponents when he wants to. He's the guy where you say "Yea, he's a jerk, but he's OUR jerk." I've been with him in baseball lockerrooms and have had many friends work with him. He is a personality for the commercials but you will be hard pressed to find many people who tolerate him let alone like him. Except the Hawkaroo of course. Don't get me wrong he has been a valuable player for the Sox and isn't a "cancer" like Bonds who outwardly try to disturb other players. He usually sits around watching TV (college football mostly) and keeps to himself, throwing a few verbal shots at people.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 14, 2011 -> 12:16 PM) How are you defining "Mean"? Depends on what the definition of "is" is.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 14, 2011 -> 02:13 PM) How in the heck could Manning EVER consider playing again? I mean baseball is much less contact, so much less, and Crede's back is wrecked. Manning is going to get hit in the back a lot. If he plays again he has a screw loose. Isn't there danger in playing, ptatc? sure there's danger in playing but probably no more than the others players. He will have metal plates in his neck. The danger is that if he injures it again there may not be much left to put back together and he will have problems for the rest of his life with numbness and tingling in his arms.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Sep 14, 2011 -> 11:31 AM) How does AJ rank ahead of Zambrano and Bradley? He has never gone after teammates or even gotten into a fight in which he was the aggressor. Just stupid The examples you used are specific instances. Maybe they aren't always like that and they do have some friends. AJ is just a mean, surly person. He is like that all the time he is not pleasant to anyone. He would be my vote for the meanest jerk in baseball along with Bonds and Gary Sheffield but they aren't active any longer.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 14, 2011 -> 01:15 PM) I had forgotten about that. I wonder if that would have changed anything anyway. Back surgerys are notorious for being unreliable. Back surgeries are extremely unreliable. Sometimes you can exhaust all options and you need to have them. However, the spine is one area where I would really use it as a last resort. The latest example of this is Peyton Manning. The lockout really hurt him as he had the cervical spinal surgery without being followed closely by the team medical group. The surgery didn't work and now he just had a spinal fusion and could be in alot of trouble once he tries to comeback. I'm sure he will need to have hardware placed in the spine and it will need to stay in there to prevent any further injuries.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Sep 13, 2011 -> 11:20 AM) Well, he did hope for the offseason to get here as soon as possible. A large part of that was due to is arm tiring because of the extensive rehab last off season. He worked alot harder this past off season after surgery than anyone normally would. He needed to and he did. I'm sure if the team was in a true pennant race he would have tried to keep going if the team needed it.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Sep 13, 2011 -> 11:07 AM) I know there is a group of people who don't believe Peavy should re-sign with the Sox for a low amount (depending on a good year in 2012) to make up for the lack of performance he's delivered in his time here compared to his salary. But if he wants to keep spewing his good-old-boy hillbilly work ethic crap and how he just wants the team to win, to be taken seriously in the future, he really ought to do something like that. I know he doesn't have to, and it'd be a stupid financial move to do so, but going off and signing a bigger deal elsewhere would just prove that all of his talk is nothing but lip service. I still don't see the problem with talking about working hard especially in his case. He busted his rear to get back to pitching this year coming back from a surgery that no pitcher ever has. Regardless of his results you can't possibly think that he hasn't worked hard and lived up to everything he has said. He hasn't talked about working hard and then just sat around doing nothing. I know he hasn't performed well but to blast his work ethic isn't right.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 13, 2011 -> 11:10 AM) So no difference really between if the tears happen to include the bone or not, but more occurrences of the tears in general if they have been using steroids? There are more tears and avulsion fractures with athletes using steriods. There are more avulsion fractures than straight muscle/tendon tears.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 13, 2011 -> 10:26 AM) Have you found any kind of equivalency with steroid usage? If you don't feel comfortable answering that, just say so, I understand if you don't want to. Not really. It's more just what I've observed from athletes who were using steriods. Mostly in football, track and field and professional body building.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 13, 2011 -> 08:25 AM) Well sort of. He did say it was more common to tear bone with it, but it was possible. Yes, it is possible and does happen. I've just seen more of the avulsion fracture over the years.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 13, 2011 -> 08:16 AM) isn't it also true that not every muscle/bone connection is the same, and that different tears ought to work in different ways? They are all the same in that there are connections called Sharpey's fibers which is connective tissue which goes from the tendon to the periosteum of the bone. They are continuous with both structures to provide a strong connections. However, some are stronger than other based on the size of the muscle, tendon and bone structures.