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Timo will not die!

QUOTE(Cerbaho-WG @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 03:38 PM) Hopefully my full blown mono will be good luck! Took a nap and I'm still tired, yeah. I feel ya. that sucks.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Aug 11, 2005 -> 10:25 PM) I wonder how many that are critical of Ozzie for being politically incorrect are the same people who regularly slur Latinos by trying to phonetically spell out Ozzie's quotes. I know this much. None of you high and mighty stone throwers said a damn thing about this when any of the numerous occurances happened. You seem to be somewhat selective in what you consider politically correct and what you consider offensive. This is the second time I've mentioned this practice as being slanderous toward Latinos. The first time I mentioned it, it was not even responded to, iirc. Then we can talk about how nobody seems to get upset when someone considers residents of the southern US as dumb hillbillies. I've called several people out on that, and the problem seems to have gone away here on Soxtalk. Thankfully. However, I had to get somewhat beligerant to get this accomplished. I guess it all depends on what is consider cool to get in an uproar about, and what is "no big deal". I know this much. There damn sure is not any consistancy in it. I agree with you. Making fun of someone's heritage is not cool. It's different when people of the same background rib each other - like when blacks use the N word or LMB teases his parents - there is nothing wrong with that, but when someone who is Anglo, for instance, makes fun of Ozzie's accent, that's not acceptable. I want to say, "How well do you speak foreign languages?" I just wanted to point out that I'm consistent. There is nothing wrong with sensitivity. Anti-PC people just want a license to be dicks to everyone.

QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 05:35 PM) I've been saying this all along. I don't care if we lose our last 40 games, I just want to make the playoffs. Um, I think if they lose their last 40 games, they won't make the playoffs.

QUOTE(CYGarland @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 04:01 PM) Just f***ing Great, The extra innings package has the Twins broadcast tonite! I hate those douchbags!!!! I second that. Circle this, Bert!

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 01:36 PM) There was actually a bit of a feud between the two in spring training about who was going to get CF. Oh. I don't remember that. Now this is off-topic, but Bradley is WAY better than Just Disabled Drew in CF. Of course, if the Dodgers have proven anything lately, it's that they're idiots.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 12:21 PM) That's the resign why J.D. Drew now play CF exclusively. His legs can't take the strain from playing the corner OF positions. Drew only played CF when Bradley was on the DL - now that he's back, Drew was playing RF before getting hurt again. As to Rowand - him not being in Hunter, old Griffey, and old Lofton's league - that was something I would have said before ST in 2004 - and I would have been dead wrong. Through his play last year and this year - he is one of (if not, the) best Centerfielders in the game. He does not misjudge balls, he doesn't run weird routes, Rowand is the real deal - and should win the Gold Glove this year.

Just listened to Gammons on Dan Patrick Show - he said there are some other teams interested, but still unsure if a deal would get done. Said it would greatly help the Sox while Pods is out (so he can heal) but suggested the Sox move Rowand to LF. I'm not sure I get this - Rowand is younger, faster, and a better CFer at this point. Move Griff to LF until Scotty gets back and then platoon him and Carl.

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 09:08 AM) Do you remember the stature of Borchy when the White Sox first signed him? LTP, Light Tower Power they called him. Images of the Natural. With repsect to Linder I think we are looking at the objectivity of Disney & the Angels. They nixed a deal that would have given them both Garland & Lee because it did not include a marquee name. I think Linder is looking for a marquee name from the ml's. Borchy in his first year fit that bill. I don't know how many players there are like that today. Did BMac exceed the 27 days to where an option year was spent? If so then he would have to clear waivers & there's no way that's happening. Not to pile on, but the Erstad deal wasn't killed because it lacked a marquee name - it was that Disney wanted to keep Erstad, who was a huge fan favorite, whether or not it helped the team (which he did that year - this was 2002.)

QUOTE(3 BeWareTheNewSox 5 @ Aug 12, 2005 -> 02:37 PM) Nice, I like this lineup and defense. Idiot Paul Sullivan on Tribune Live described the Red Sox as the best team in baseball and World champions. Last year has nothing to do with determining their team this year, this just in, we are the best team in baseball. This city and its media is full of dopes Well, they are the defending World Champs. when the Bulls were winning all their championships, I always considered them the best until proven otherwise.

QUOTE(South Side Fireworks Man @ Aug 11, 2005 -> 02:26 PM) Homosexual activity is abnormal. That is a fact. If it weren't abnormal, at least fifty percent of humans and animals would routinely engage in homosexual acts. In reality a very very small percentage do. In addition to being abnormal, most societies and civilizations in the history of the world consider(ed) homosexuality to be undesirable. That is a fact. Most major religions in the world consider homosexual activity immoral. The Bible declares homosexual behavior a sin. Because of all the facts stated above, many people believe that homosexual behavior is "wrong." You obviously hold a different opinion. So that makes you right and everyone else with whom you disagree wrong? Could it be possible you are wrong? Right or wrong, you have the right to your opinion and to express it. By the same token, people who believe homosexual activity is wrong for cultural, moral or religious reasons also have a right to their opinions and a right to openly express them without being called names or intimidated into silence by a vocal minority. For the record, in this particular case, Ozzie didn't comment on "right" or "wrong". He just joked that his friend was a homosexual. His friend took no offense. What is so "insensitive" about that? Some people just go around looking for a reason to be offended so they can push their agenda off on everyone else. Finally, as others in this thread have pointed out, it is indeed interesting how out of all the media people present, nobody deemed this printworthy except two employees of the Tribune Company, at a time when the Sox are enjoying success and their Cubs are taking a beating on the field and in the public eye. What makes it abnormal or immoral? That you or other people don't agree with it? Left-handed people are in the minority - are they abnormal? Red-haired people are in the minority - are they abnormal? Most societies and civilizations in the history of the world consider(ed) homosexuality to be undesirable? That is certainly not a fact. Any survey of ancient history can disprove this. Look at Ancient Greece and Rome - or pre-Christian Europe. For a man to have a male lover was considered a high status symbol. "Most major religions in the world consider homosexual activity immoral. The Bible declares homosexual behavior a sin." The big three religions in the world (Christianity, Islam, and Judaism) are founded on the beliefs of the inferiority of women and the inequality of the sexes. The main root of homophobia is sexism - why else don't we want men acting like women? Because they're seen as inferior. I respect your opinion, although I don't agree. At the end of the day, you'll either agree or disagree with what I've said - that's fine. But the major point (and how this relates to Ozzie) is this: Racism is wrong. Sexism is wrong. Religion-ism (I invented that term) is wrong. Classism is wrong. Heterosexism is wrong. Calling someone gay as an insult is the same thing as calling someone a racial slur.

QUOTE(Greg Hibbard @ Aug 11, 2005 -> 11:54 AM) Why does everyone say that he's equating the two? He threw two different insults at the guy. The way I read it he called him one name and then the other...not "homosexual and a child molester" or "homosexual child molester" but "he's a homosexual! he's a child molester!" Why is being called homosexual an "insult"?? This is the root of the problem! That corollation, like calling your friends "gay" or trying to insult someone by claiming they perform gay acts - you're insinuating there is a right and wrong about people's sexual orientation and there isn't. Ozzie deserves to be called on this. It's not right. He doesn't deserve to be fired or anything like that, just to be called out publicly to watch his mouth. That the sentiment exists in his mind, as it seems in most people's, is what's wrong in all this. For it to come on the heels of him commenting about a radio host's broad generalizations about Latinos is ironic to say the least.

QUOTE(3 BeWareTheNewSox 5 @ Aug 11, 2005 -> 10:56 AM) I don't get how a homosexual would be offended, the word is now a forbidden fruit? You have to be one to use it? Teens and friends in general use these terms with no thought of the gay community. Morrisey would understand if he had friends It's wrong because someone used it as a "diss", as someone above called it, even though it was in a playful way. Why is it a diss? You wouldn't try to diss your friends by saying "that is so straight" as if being one way is "right" and being another way is "wrong." Language isn't just there - there's meaning behind it, and we should realize it before we use it. Most boys growing up hate to be told they "throw like a girl," because being equated with women is a no-no in this sexist manly society. It's bulls***.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Aug 10, 2005 -> 10:23 PM) Consider this. Palmeiro's numbers early in the season were horrid, when he knew the policy was in effect. Then, after his horrid start, he takes steroids and eventually becomes the Palmeiro of old. I afraid his recovery is a direct result of his injections and since that will no longer be an option for him, that he'll go back to being too old and too slow with the bat to be of any help. It might be a mental thing, but remember - steroids does not help you hit the ball any better.

QUOTE(Shrunken Slugger @ Aug 11, 2005 -> 04:33 AM) I thought it was an odd article. The comments weren't going to offend anyone until they were published. That's not true - it could have easily offended anyone standing there, as any normal sensitive person should be reading it. It was the wrong connection to make - gays and molesters - and was not funny at all, even in jest. We live in a heterosexist society anyway - and are continually reminded how imperfect this world is, but anytime you think things are getting better, reality just slaps you in the face. It's sad. Ozzie's excuse of growing up in Venezuela, which is immersed in the sexist Latin culture (as is ours, but more so), is just that, an excuse. I love Ozzie, but I'm disappointed in him.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Aug 10, 2005 -> 05:50 PM) There's obviously something wrong with it if it's illegal don't you think? Not all steroids are illegal. and who cares if it is? Like all of us are perfect people who never break the law - never speed, never cheat on our taxes, never drank before turning 21... What someone does with their own body is their business, not mine.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Aug 9, 2005 -> 10:11 AM) Rafeal Palmeiro is a lying, cheating bastard there is absolutely no way in hell I ever want him anywhere near the White Sox. I hope he never plays in the big leagues again, baseball would be better off. So what? There's nothing wrong with cheating even if you get caught. I'd take him in a heartbeat. Even without the steroids, he'd still have 3000 hits. You people are too high and mighty. I'm sure you never do anything wrong either.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Aug 10, 2005 -> 01:59 PM) s***, I will rent him and his family a freakin mansion in Tuscon, scottsdale, vegas, wherever. Just please come to the sox, please!!! How's about for me?

QUOTE(Brian @ Aug 10, 2005 -> 09:56 AM) I thought Charlie Steiner did Yanks rado, or did he leave? He does Dodgers radio now.

just tuned in - and yahoo is sleeping. what's the score?

What the f*** is timo doing batting fifth AGAIN??????!!!!!!

Is there anything new to report? The rumors have died since the trade deadline...

Willie Mays 1954 Series good.

LOL @ Farmer: "Let someone else play!"

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Aug 8, 2005 -> 03:16 PM) Jeter tagged him in the face. He definately tagged him. Whether it was in time or not would be the argument. It was close. It was after he was already on the bag - the YES Network keeps replaying it. Scotty was safe.