YASNY

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Oct 13, 2005 -> 10:21 PM) Here is an excerpt from the bostondirtdogs.com site. Here is officially the dumbest idea on how to fix the game. The good of the game my ass. What a dummy. Sour grapes.

QUOTE(Sox Hustler @ Oct 13, 2005 -> 08:13 PM) I really really want 2 but if not then 1 should be the minimum. It BETTER be the minimum.

Kids are taught this from the time they begin playing baseball. Josh Paul screwed the pooch on that play. No doubt about it.

QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Oct 14, 2005 -> 01:25 AM) I actually think TK is funny. But I don't know, I used to love watching the show no matter what topic, now I just look at the rundown and see if there's anything I want to hear about. I never watch PTI as I'm usually sleeping at that time. But, I hated TK when he was on ESPNradio.

Jimbo's is within walking distance of the Cell, though I couldn't tell you exactly where. I've only been in the place one time.

Wilbon doesn't bother me at all. Kornheiser, on the other hand, is a pompous ass.

To Arms! To Arms! The White Sox are coming! The White Sox are coming! ummmmmm ... wait.

Happy Birthday Madam Future President!

QUOTE(BlackBetsy @ Oct 13, 2005 -> 10:35 AM) I think Paulie is the #4 hitter next year, and he'll be in line for a $2-$3 million raise only. ($10-$11 million) A fair amount of money will come off the books in 2006 - Everett ($4m), Thomas ($8m), such that the Sox can get a #3 hitter and stay roughly even with 2005. Mind you, I can also see the Sox giving Big Frank a 1-year, $6 million deal. Reinsdorf loves Frank, and will want to keep him if it makes sense. Frank was a very good citizen this year, too. They'll owe him $3.5 million from buy out, so it'll cost the Sox only $2.5 million. If Frank is healthy, he'd still be the most dangerous hitter on the Sox, even if he declines to .265/.370/.550. Not sure who else would sign Frank; in the AL (Frank can only play DH at this point), the Yankees are set on DH with Giambi, and the Red Sox with Big Papi. I guess the Angels are one option (close to Frank's Vegas home), but everyone else is too cheap to dish out the $5 million it'll take to risk on Frank. If they sign Frank to a $6M contract after the buyout, it'll only cost them .... $6M.

QUOTE(olp_nch @ Oct 13, 2005 -> 10:31 AM) Knock, Knock, Knockin’ On Heaven’s Doors In An Attempt To Wake The Angels NBC5.Com reports that a WCKG Chicago personality and an intern were charged yesterday with criminal trespass after knocking on the doors of hotel rooms occupied by players from the Los Angeles Angels, in Chicago to play the White Sox in the American League Championship Series. Ryan Mendenhall, a sports reporter for WCKG, and intern Karl Klockars were both charged with misdemeanor criminal trespass. They’re accused of knocking on the hotel room doors Tuesday night where the ballplayers were staying at in the Westin Hotel in Chicago. I think it sucks. Why do these dips***s have to besmirch Chicago sports fans again?

QUOTE(Rex Hudler @ Oct 13, 2005 -> 07:38 AM) It just does Yas. In that situation, he should have extended his right arm as he first did, and then did nothing until an out was recorded. If you see an earlier at bat where the ball skipped into AJ's glove, he waited until AJ tagged Molina (I believe) to signal with his fist. Because it was strike three and the play was still live with no out recorded, the fist pump should not have taken place at that time. I heard Harold Reynolds say this morning the he uses that fist pump for strike one, strike two and strike three. That is his strike call, not an out call. What he should have done with Molina was pump for strike, then call or punch him out. He didn't do, but I don't know why. The point is that is his swinging STRIKE mechanism.

QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Oct 13, 2005 -> 02:31 AM) I have only one question: If Eddings did indeed signal that he was out, then why would watching AJ run to first make him change his mind? This is a professional umpire with years of MLB experience. Do you honestly think that after calling AJ out he changed his mind? These guys stand by their calls to a fault, IMO. He never hesitated watching AJ run to first the whole way. If in his mind he had already called him out then he would've waived him off and said you're out, why the hell are you running to first?! I think you have to give the ump the benefit of the doubt on this one. I think that is the best point made yet. No way an ump changes his call under those circumstances.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Oct 13, 2005 -> 02:12 AM) Rowand should have never... EVAR been sent in the first place. Crede was the dumbass hanging way too far off the base. Am i the only one that thought the strike zone was pretty damn for both sides today? Either way the sox screwed themselves on both of the two plays mentioned. Two comments on Crede plays screw up. One, I think he the flight of the ball fooled him. I think he thought the ball would get down sooner than it did. Two, when he started back to 2B, his first step was lost due to his foot slipping. I'm not excusing him for the mistake, but he would have been safe if he hadn't slipped.

QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Oct 13, 2005 -> 02:06 AM) By the same logic, if he does the same motion on strike three swinging calls and the batter is out (without any additional motion), how can it not mean strike three swining the batter is out. ESPN showed this a bunch of times. Also, again...on the Molina at bat, he did NOT signal a fist after he swung through a strike three and the ball hit the dirt. He waited til AJ tagged him, then did the fist, quite obviously for the out at that point. To answer your question, the batter would be out on strike three when the umpire says "You're Out!". That would be the difference. He didn't make that call on A. J.

QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Oct 13, 2005 -> 01:57 AM) Not based on what he did all game. I'm not about to re-hash what i've posted throughout this thing. I have finished reading the thread since my first post, so there is no need to "rehash". But if he makes the same sequence of motions on strike two, how can it be interpretted as an out call? That makes no sense.

QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Oct 13, 2005 -> 01:40 AM) The ball changing direction upwards doesn't mean a whole lot, as it could have occured inside the mitt. ESPN also showed quite a few replays on strike three calls where he did the arm and the fist pump. When Molina struck out and the ball hit the dirt, he did the arm...then nothing. AJ then tagged Molina, and then he did the fist. Based on the precedent he set over the course of the game, he used the wrong mechanics during the AJ at bat. Still, he made the same sequence of motions on a strike two call, which by definition means it was not an out signal.

I got tired of reading thru this thread, so I may repeat something here. Here's my take on it. First, when FOX zoomed in and showed the play in very slow motion, you can distinctly see the ball change direction upward. As for the fist pump, ESPN showed a call earlier in the game where the ump first indicated the batter swung thru the ball by extending his right arm, then followed with the same fist pump motion, which in this particular case indicated strike TWO. Whether or not that pump was percieved to be an out signal, that particular umpire used that motion to indicate a strike.

During the flight to the coast, hopefully the Sox decide to pull their collective heads out of their collective asses because they've played some pretty stupid baseball the last two games.

All I can say is that since I installed Rally Crede as my avatar, things have gone pretty good for the Sox. I ain't changing a damn thing.

QUOTE(sox-r-us @ Oct 11, 2005 -> 11:27 PM) Ok GO FOCKING SOX.....I am done with my ranting.....time to get back on track About FOCKING time.

QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Oct 12, 2005 -> 01:19 AM) YASNY, you cannot-cannot-cannot call Jose's performance anything less than stellar. 8 1/3 3 runs with fewer baserunners than IP? Great outing. Unfortunately, the Angels did a great job of executing against us. It's hard for Jose to pitch shutouts because he is so easy to steal on so if a team decently executes once or twice-there will be a couple of runs. Jose has pitched his way on to the untradeable list of the Sox-$9 million in salary be damned He was stellar .... from the 4th inning on. He grooved one to Anderson and was shaky in the 3rd.

QUOTE(fathom @ Oct 12, 2005 -> 12:52 AM) With my seats high above home plate, I had a great view of Pods bunt attempts. They were absolutely awful, and he didn't give himself a chance in hell of putting the bunt into play. He's usually a very good bunter, but I don't know what the hell was going on with him that AB. We gave up 5 outs due to smallball tonight. That's way, way too many. That was a pathetic bunting display. In fact, that was the only time I really got pissed off the whole game.

QUOTE(Spiff @ Oct 12, 2005 -> 12:50 AM) We played like ass and lost 3-2 (thanks to Crede). With a team whose pitching is in such disarray as the Angels, I don't worry. Go out and get them tomorrow, then fight the good fight in LA, come back home and do what you gotta do. Thanks to Crede? No sir. This was a complete team loss.

Tonight's was just an ugly ballgame by the Sox. Contreras did not find his groove soon enough and he screwed up by not going to home on that play. Uribe almost pulled a Jerry Dybzinski move. Inability to get get the sac bunts when needed, and not having AJ bunt in the 7th. A poor all around performance.

QUOTE(robinventura23 @ Oct 11, 2005 -> 11:53 AM) ....And Blago Damn Cub Fan. No Carl Lewis either.