YASNY

Some of the people around here that call themselves Sox fans, couldn't spell fan if you spotted them the f and the a. Unf***ingbelievable. A good Sox fan must: 1. b**** 2. Moan 3. Whine 4. All of the above.

QUOTE(Steff @ Jun 30, 2005 -> 11:23 AM) Sure.. I'll handle it privately. Thank you.

Here I am ... trying to be a peacemake before this gets ugly ... because I've seen you two hook up before ... and both of you keep insisting on getting the last word. Will you both please just stop? Thank you.

QUOTE(Beastly @ Jun 30, 2005 -> 11:18 AM) For right now, I've said what I've wanted to say without personally attacking her. I just don't want her strutting around and picking on me without me getting a chance to fire back. Same thing to you. Let it go.

QUOTE(daa84 @ Jun 30, 2005 -> 11:16 AM) i wasnt one of them either. all im sayin is ppl overreact. yeah i think baj or jenks or even sanders should get called up first, but i also understand that walker has mlb experience and is a lefty. walker gave up 4 runs against anaheim and i believe that was teh only poor outing he had. and now people treat him like he is the second coming of cade mcnown . yeah he has a 5+ era at charlotte, but do any of us know how he threw the ball? one bad outing can ruin a short relievers ERA. people on this site dont know how to look at numbers. they look at the final numbers and base their opinions from those. like everyone wants to say viz "wets teh bed" but what they cant comprehend is if ozzie didnt leave viz out to dry vs. cle. and he threw only 1 ER instead of 6, his ERA would be 3.8 and everyone would be fine with him. but apparently because ozzie left him out there to throw 60 some pitches, he suddenly needs to wear huggies when he goes to the mound. get real people and look at it how it is. walker might not be the best choice, but dont s*** a brick cuz hes being called up. s***ting a brick is the Soxtalk way.

QUOTE(Steff @ Jun 30, 2005 -> 11:15 AM) Yes YAS.. because clearly someone can't handle someone disagreeing with their opinion.. :rolly Let it go, Steff. It's not worth it.

Steff and Beastly need to stop exchanging barbs before this gets ugly.

QUOTE(Cubs Suck23 @ Jun 30, 2005 -> 11:10 AM) How about making a trade for Kent Mercker Look at Mercker's splits against lefties this year. He can't get them out.

QUOTE(quickman @ Jun 30, 2005 -> 11:01 AM) But Yas today the point is valid but last night the arguement was different and people argued it differently. We know why he wasn't used now but sticking up for OZZIE with the thought of marte being healthy made no sense. I still stand by my reasoning that Ozzie was doing the right thing. The argument I broached before I knew about Marte.

One thing to consider. The AS break will take 3 days out of the 15 days on the DL.

QUOTE(Jabroni @ Jun 30, 2005 -> 10:55 AM) Yep. You use your closer in 1-run games. Do you honestly think Hermanson can't pitch an inning or so every other day? He was a starting pitcher in the past. Hermy would have been the last pitcher in the pen. Ozzie had to stretch Shingo as far as possible. Or ..... let Timo pitch.

QUOTE(Jabroni @ Jun 30, 2005 -> 10:52 AM) I would almost bet my left nut that Kenny is going to get Stanton now. So ... do you still think Ozzie should have pulled Shingo last night?

QUOTE(Southside hitmen @ Jun 30, 2005 -> 10:46 AM) Sometimes us fans should lay off the Mgr because we dont know everything going on in the clubhouse.. Ozzie took a beating last night on this site for NO dam reason That happens a lot around here.

Well, well. Another reason why Ozzie left Shingo in the game last night comes to light. You see folks, we don't always know everything that is going on in that clubhouse.

QUOTE(Beastly @ Jun 30, 2005 -> 10:37 AM) You know, I saw you lurking this thread, and I knew you were going to give me some bulls***. Way to go Steff, way to f***ing go... :finger If the shoe fits, wear it.

QUOTE(mreye @ Jun 30, 2005 -> 10:35 AM) http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=36156 Oh well. Sorry.

s***. Somebody correct the spelling of "eminent" in the thread title please.

After a quick glance, I didn't see this story posted here. If it has been, delete or merge or whatever. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8406056/

QUOTE(zach23 @ Jun 30, 2005 -> 09:44 AM) That wasn't Kenny Rogers, that was Chuck Finley. Damn. You are correct.

I just heard on SportsCenter that today is the 100th anniversary of the only Major League appearance of "Moonlight" Graham" of "Field of Dreams" fame. It's not a Sox topic, but I thought it was an interesting footnote.

QUOTE(Hideaway Lights @ Jun 30, 2005 -> 09:30 AM) 2001-2004 was a very tiring, frustrating time to be a Sox fan. In 2001 I remember being burnt out by the time we were 8-19. In all of those years I remember saying "if we could just get back to .500 I'd believe" and "if we could just get within 5 games we have a shot" God, how pathetic is that line of thinking. When people complain that the fans didn't support the Sox in '01 after the division title, they forget about that 8-19 start.

QUOTE(shakes @ Jun 30, 2005 -> 09:41 AM) I think last night could be a turning point for Shingo. He saw Ozzie has trust in him again. I also think it was big that he caught a bad break in the 13th and was able to work his way through it. But, Ozzie was considered an idiot for leaving in Shingo and not bringing in Hermanson.

I just received this via email. Supposedly, Snopes says this is legitimate. The bold print was added by me.

QUOTE(Yoda @ Jun 30, 2005 -> 09:19 AM) Kenny Rogers is a dick. The media guys (or cameramen) are just doing their job. They get attacked by a f***ing lunatic who needs anger management. How the cameraman ended up in the hospital, I dunno. Still, I’m glad to see that Rogers is getting the attention he is getting right now. His reputation is going down the drain. That is if he ever had one. His reputation was pretty well shot when his wife, Tawny Kitean, kicked his ass.

Just merged this DBack trade thread into the Gigantic trade thread, where it belongs.