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I was very hesitant to open this thread. Just saying.

I'm glad to see Ryne get in. All anti-Cub BS aside, he was a very good ballplayer in all facets of the game and a consummate professional. And as a personal note, I have the complete 1983 Topps set which has rookie cards for both of today's inductees. Tony Gwynn should make it from that set too, when he becomes eligible.

I've seen Dick Allen mentioned a couple of times. Does he fit within the 30 year time frame? Hey! No one mentioned Minnie Minoso.

QUOTE(Whitesoxfan56 @ Jan 5, 2005 -> 02:07 AM) LF-POD 2B-IGUCHI DH-THOMAS 1B-KONERKO RF-DYE C-AJP CF-ROWAND SS-URIBE 3B-CREDE BENCH HARRIS, BURKE, PEREZ, GLOAD, DAVIS SP BUEHRLE GARCIA EL DUQUE CONTREARS GARLAND PEN ADKINS/COTTS VIZ POLLTIE MARTE HERMY SHINGO What is this?

C - Fisk 1B - Konerko 2B - Durham SS - Valentin 3B - Ventura LF - Belle CF - Rowand RF - Ordonez DH - Thomas RHSP - McDowell LHSP - Buehrle CL - Thigpen Using PK's 04 season over Frank at 1b so I could use Thomas as DH. Valentin's 2000 season is the best we've seen from SS since little Looie I went with Rowand's 04 season over One Dog in CF.

Vance Law, Rudy Law, Greg Luzinski, Greg Walker, Ron Kittle 1983 Sox!!!!! Not serious, but we can't forget the '83 team

QUOTE(Winnin Ugly @ Jan 4, 2005 -> 10:29 AM) AL Cent Champ- Whitesox AL East- Yankees AL West- Angels Wildcard- Redsox NL Cent- Cardinals NL East- Mets NL West- Giants Wildcard- Braves Way too early for this.

QUOTE(babybearhater @ Jan 4, 2005 -> 09:15 AM) I agree that most teams would have him as a starter instead of just an arm in the pen. BUT in my opinion, he would be the MOST valuable as a closer. I think he would be lights out, and would stay healthy all year, which would make him more valuable OVERALL. There are exceptions to every rule, but generally closers are not all that valuable. Well, more accurately, they are more easily replaced than a quality starter. Hell, Billy Beane changes closers like the Bears change quarterbacks.

QUOTE(mreye @ Jan 4, 2005 -> 08:56 AM) And I'm just saying that those "unanswered questions" are manufactured by conspiracy theorists that want to beleive there is a conpiracy in everything that is government related. The power-mongers of the world do not play by the same rules as the rest of us. If you think everything is always on the up and up because they are our elected leaders, so be it. But Roosevelt did not know about Pearl Harbor and LBJ wasn't part of the Kennedy asassination, either.

QUOTE(EvilJester99 @ Jan 4, 2005 -> 08:46 AM) Bruce Levine was just on AM 1000 and said Aj is looking for a deal of atleast 3 mill a year and the Sox offer is less...plus he said Iguchi is looking for a 3 yr deal and the Sox have offered a 2 year deal. Take it for what its worth though... I don't know enough about Iguchi to have an opinion on a three year deal, but AJP is worth $3million a year.

QUOTE(mreye @ Jan 4, 2005 -> 08:24 AM) But some video sent through e-mail over and over and over again is? I'm not saying that. I do feel there are WAY too many unanswered questions.

QUOTE(mreye @ Jan 4, 2005 -> 08:14 AM) http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm Are we going to have to go through this every 4 months? :rolly I didn't realize Snopes was the definitive authority.

QUOTE(mreye @ Jan 4, 2005 -> 08:16 AM) I think for the first time ever, I'm gald I have a garage the isn't attached to the house. Much easier to get away. Just be sure to put the toilet seat down, or your life will be a living hell.

Regardless of the "evidence" shown that it was not a conspiracy, I'm not convinced the US Govt did not have a hand in it.

Make sure that birth certificate is the real deal and NOT a Xerox copy.

QUOTE(mreye @ Jan 3, 2005 -> 01:55 PM) Don't think for a second that I wasn't getting a little worried about that. Great minds ....

QUOTE(Jeckle2000 @ Jan 4, 2005 -> 03:06 AM) We ought to take wagers to see which one comes to camp fatter: Everett or Uribe I'll take Uribe. Everett is in a contract year.

QUOTE(hi8is @ Jan 4, 2005 -> 03:29 AM) you make it sound like you were the only one. tisk task.... there was much support for arow... not as much cynism as support, but still there were a large few who were on his side. Oh I disagree. I remember getting into several discussions where I had to back up ARow. Most people were ready to dump him for little or nothing. I also happen to agree with Rex. I felt Arow was would be a damn good ballplayer, but never predicted greatness for him.

To us old timers, Los Angeles Angels does not sound strange at all. At least they play in the same state. Unlike the NFL Jets & Giants.

Kerry Wood would be in the rotation on any team in the majors. He hasn't lived up to expectations, but he's still a solid starting pitcher.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Jan 4, 2005 -> 01:09 AM) The part where it says he has an above average arm is kinda humorous in my opinion. He has a pretty weak arm whenever i see him. I'm just passing along information.

Pre-2004 defensive scouting report from on ESPN:

Hey that's great news. You even get to claim Amanda as a dependant on your income taxes! Seriously, congrats to you and the Mrs.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Jan 3, 2005 -> 12:46 PM) YAS, is your av a picture of Lennon from how the war was won? If so, good stuff. Just wondering. No. It's Arte Johson from the old Rowan and MarTin's Laugh In show from back in the '60's.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Jan 3, 2005 -> 12:40 PM) I think all of the commenting on Iguchi is a bit premature because no one here has really seen him play. Can we really judge what he will do in MLB based on his career in Japan? I don't think so. I personally would rather see AJP signed over Cora or Iguchi. He is a proven commodity at the catcher position and we need a grinder who is a lefty. I agree about AJ. I consider Japanese baseball at about an AAA+ level, so it's a decent indicator of what can be expected from Iguchi.