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Does no one else question a multiyear deal for Timo? I figured he'd be non-tendered.

Kansas City just traded Santiago to Pittsburg. They also got Eli Morerro from the Braves, but I don't know what their plans are for using him yet.

Ummmm .... Why do we spell "own" with a "p"? Just curious.

I don't believe they should be banned. Adults should be able to choose their own form of entertainment. But kids playing these games is a different matter.

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I wish Randa would end up in the NL, because he seems to always hurt the Sox, but I'd rather have Crede.

At some point, sitting on it becomes the smart thing to do. I'm not saying that point is upon us yet. But I'd rather see him sit and wait for a good opportunity, than to spend it without getting much in return. I don't want this to happen, but if he decides that's his best course of action, I'm not going to crucify him for doing so.

Okay ... I'll cut you some slack. Just think before you post on how something will look to a new poster. Deal?

Then we've still got the lack of a starter problem and no money to address it.

I don't care in what color you typed this, it classless and totally inappropriate. Soxtalk allows people to drop a few F bombs when they feel the need, but posts like this are going to drive potentially good posters away. You are sitting behind an alias spewing this crap, so you aren't even representing yourself. You are, however, representing all of us here at Soxtalk whenever you post and I, for one, don't approve this kind of classlessness.

However, a :headshake was entirely appropriate.

I don't think Williams planned on holding the money till July, as evidenced by the Sox being in the Clement sweepstakes. I'm saying there does come a point where his best option might turn out to be to hold on to it rather than spend it just to keep a bunch of fans from getting pissed.

:headshake

My fastball has always resembled a Shingo change-up. I think not. :headshake

Hell. I'm pissed I'm not 20 years younger!

Is total indifference an option?

And ... it's Everett's walk year. You know he's come to come in to camp in shape and bust his ass to put up good numbers this year.

I don't think there will be a Nightmare PR disaster if the Sox don't overpay for one of these mediocre pitchers on the free agent market. At least, there won't be any legitimacy to it. To start, they certain tried to acquire Randy Johnson. That's an unarguable fact. In fact, they got back in it when they were considered out of it. We all heard the names being thrown out there in exchange for Johnson and the majority -- not everyone, but most -- thought the DBack's were a brick short of a full load. Ok, KW tried but could not come to a reasonable deal with Arizona. Clement is going to sign with someone for between $21 and 30 million over 3 years. Is he worth it knowing the Sox budget constraints? Not realistically. I heard people complain that we were overpaying Garland, yet he has been very near Clement successwise. If we lose out on Clement, it wasn't for the lack of a good effort. Saying that KW may hold onto the money would piss a lot of Sox fans off. So be it, then. Get pissed. That may very well turn out to be the smart thing to do. Let me put a hypothetical situation out there. Pedro's arm falls off on opening day at Shea and the Mets go right in the tank. Knowing that they blew their proverbial payroll wad on their new armless starter, Minaya decide to cut bait and restock the farm system. So, on May 15th the Sox trade a couple of prospects for say, Tom Glavine. Hmmm. I think I could live with that. Sometimes the deal you don't make is the best one of all. Also, if Grilli is one of the options for the 5th starter come spring training, I think he's entitled to a shot at earning it as well as anyone else they've got. I do not think it is fair to judge Grilli on 2004 as he was in the 2nd year of the well established two year recovery cycle from TJ surgery. I'll start evaluating Jason Grilli in ST and go from there. He very well may be the best of the bunch (of potential 5th starters) and there is no reason not to give him the same opportunity of winning that job as anybody else.

Gotta go with UK

I don't think anybody that doesn't have an office at 35th and Shields has any idea what is really going on right now.

Considering that Garland + Marte = approximately the $6 million on Vazquez's salary ... and we are still talking to Clement, this might be doable from a Sox perspective.

Wow. Great post.

Ok ... let's consider this possibility ... The Yanks move Vazquez to us along with enough cash to limit his salary to about $6 million a year ... We move Garland and Marte ... the Yanks get Hudson. Then we sign Clement above and beyond the acquisition of Vazquez to replace Garland. Just popped into my head and not much thought put into this. Thoughts?

There is a reason people are afraid for the Sox to give Clement the salary he is commanding. If he doesn't pan out to be any more than a .500 pitcher, we've got an older Jon Garland for twice the salary. Then, we would also be limited in the future when it comes to acquiring other players. There are several here, me included, that are afraid the $6 million a year we have on the books for Contreras will prove to be a waste. If they both crap out, we can forget about winning anything till '07 or '08. It's a big risk and the Sox haven't had the best luck with supposed "sure things" (ex: D Wells, Colon).

yes ma'am.