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With the Enquirer stuff, all I can stay is lightning doesn't strike twice. I would agree that i'm curious to see if any reputable news sources do anything though. I doubt that THEY will, but somebody like MSNBC might report on it.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 11:42 AM) MOst of the time it's ACT scores and credits from high school classes. I never understood the ACT score thing. I think you have to get like an 18 and you get 3 chances. This is correct. People don't realize how dumb an athlete has to be to not make it through clearance.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 12:57 PM) I wasn't comparing Obama to Jesus. She crapped all over community organizers to rounds of cheers. Jesus was a community organizer. So was Martin Luther King. So was Ceaser Chavez. Did she think they were worthless figures too? I bet if I put "Hitler was a great public speaker" on my signature, you'd get pretty upset. Stupid comparisons are just that, stupid.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 12:47 PM) http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-fink...ad-msnbc-badges Olbermann probably flew them in there. This would be about the least shocking news of the day.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 12:49 PM) 9ui11iani and Palin must not be big fans of his. The update of the signature makes it even better, and the fact that you are defending it makes it the best. Love it. QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 12:48 PM) Jesus had "no real responsibilities" The only thing more ridiculous than that Palin quote on Obama might be Sqwert's sig.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 12:45 PM) In case you haven't noticed he attacked the Democratic Presidential nominee on national TV the other day. I like the fact your signature compares Obama to Jesus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairness_Doctrine (If wikipedia says it, it must be true!) What are your thoughts on the fairness doctrine, it's repeal in the 1980's, the interest in reinstating it from people like John Kerry and Dick Durbin, and so on? One thing I have gathered about it reading all over the place in books, magazines, and on the internet is the left seems more open to bringing it back than the right. My guess is this relates directly to how popular conservative radio and people like Rush Limbaugh became when this was repealed in the first place. I don't take it as any more than that, because I'd bet the right would be reacting the same way if liberal radio was more popular, but then again that's just a guess. My overall thought on this is I think the fact this doctrine was ever passed is asinine and seems like a complete violation of the first amendment. I would hope this nonsense never comes back, and even if it does, how do you enforce it? How do you determine when somebody is reporting news and when somebody needs to make sure they present both sides of an argument in a balanced way because they gave too much of an opinion?

I thought the ebay thing was just a joke. If people are taking stuff like that seriously, then they are really trying too hard.

I think McCain has a little more work to do in the electoral college than Obama. Obama needs to go out west and steal a couple spots, as well as win a couple battleground states, and he's in good shape. On the other side, McCain needs to hold on to Ohio, Florida, Virginia, North Carolina, and Indiana. I actually think Obama's best chances are in North Carolina and Virginia, so in that sense both parties need to look there.

QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 12:00 PM) so we are possibly going to see a brand new electoral map. Small states matter. In 2000, if Gore had kept his resources in NH instead of moving them to try and grab florida, he could've won new hampshire and taken the election. States like Wyoming going blue now, they make a big difference. Both of these points are very good IMO. I think the campaigning that both parties will have to do will be in more areas that in the past because I think in the end, even with the polls where they are, this is a unique election. You have a so called "maverick" with a reputation as a moderate in the GOP going against a very young and very to the left democrat. Plus, you have in play the fascinating VP candidates on both sides in Biden and Palin. To be specific, I would agree with athomeboy's thought that Obama needs to go west. The west helped him beat Clinton, and he's going to need some help from it again to beat McCain IMO. Also, small states will indeed matter because this is probably going to be a close election so every point in the electoral college is huge.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 10:55 AM) I don't hate McCain, as I could stomach him winning a lot more than I could Hillary. However, someone please tell him to stop doing that thing with his arms where he's trying to show he's pumped up by sticking them straight out. Either that, or his jacket was on way too tight. He can't lift his arms higher than that because of the beatings he took as a POW. As for the speech, the strategy to me is clear. Sarah Palin's speech was designed to unite the farther to the right, bible thumping, gun toting, *insert more lame cliches here* "base" of the party. John McCain's speech, on the other side, was designated to go after the so called "conservative" democrats, moderates, and independents. I think this strategy in itself is very good, but the question is if it worked or not. McCain isn't a very good speech giver, but what he said just seemed very genuine and I did like that. I was especially struck by the line "we were elected to change Washington and we let Washington change us". That was a direct (and deserved) shot at George W. Bush. He took a few other shots as well IMO, and I liked hearing that admittance that the last 8 years haven't been good. The one thing I have learned in this election is I don't think any of the four people on the tickets for both sides are anything but good people, even if I don't always agree with them and their politics. So in that sense, this is a rare election and we could probably do worse (ie the last two elections, where nobody was likeable, or any good to be honest).

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Sep 3, 2008 -> 11:21 PM) My girl, Nora O'DOnnell, just said on MSNBC that over the past few days people have asked her "what is a community organizer?". Now is a GREAT time to introduce Obama the Organizer and show just how out of touch Palin and the GOP are for mocking community organizers. Remember, the crowd LAUGHED when she mocked community organizers I cringed when the crowd lauged. Making fun of a community organizer, especially one from an area where it's important, is just not good. At best, it looks ignorant and it worst, it looks almost racist. I really didn't like her doing that, but I've already make that pretty clear. The dems will jump all over that if they know what's good for them.

QUOTE (jackie hayes @ Sep 3, 2008 -> 11:11 PM) Is there such a thing in Schaumburg? I mean, in Obama's case, it was a job, paid for (iirc) by a coalition of church groups. As I understand it, it basically involves working towards community needs that no one person/church can fulfill on its own. Perhaps sometimes helping kids get to school, but moreso trying to arrange a way to ensure they get to school regularly. I would think the local government in Schaumburg would handle most of that. I'm just not sure it would be helpful to have such a person in a suburb, with people so much more dispersed. Yeah community organizers are really only of meaingful use in areas that don't have a ton of money. QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Sep 3, 2008 -> 11:10 PM) wow. Harry Reed called Palin "shrill". Not good. not good. Is that like some horrible thing to say? I don't agree with him, but unless shrill means something different than I think, I don't see the controversy.

QUOTE (The Bones @ Sep 3, 2008 -> 11:02 PM) Martin Luther King Jr. was a community organizer. To me, he's the ultimate community organizer. I don't know where he started out doing that, but he ended up organizing the entire black community in a positive way, and obviously helped get amazing things done.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Sep 3, 2008 -> 11:00 PM) Someone on CNN just said they talked to a Democratic Pollster, so take this with a grain of salt, that said he think she might have come off as a little too harsh in her debut. That's fair to say. I thought it was great, but I enjoy sarcasm and dry humor so I'm biased.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 3, 2008 -> 10:57 PM) That accusation kind of makes itself. It's mostly ignorance than anything else. Yeah, you'd swear she had never met a community organizer in her life (maybe she hasn't, being from Alaska).

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Sep 3, 2008 -> 10:51 PM) it played right into the "GOP is out of touch" line. Ye,s you can say they dont have executive power. but dont brush them off as just people who dont do much and try to be self important. Community organizers are a lot more important than many people realize. Like I said, I didn't like that part much and if I were running the show, that part of the speech gets cut out. I understand the point she was trying to make, but you should leave that one alone. QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 3, 2008 -> 10:51 PM) They just kinda skipped over him being a state senator though and act like he was a community organizer, and only that, before he got elected to the US senate. It's become routine. Yeah, but you had to know that was going to happen. It's how the system works. Also, on a side note, I bet somebody picks up on the community organizing mocking by Palin and calls it racist. I don't think it actually was, but community organizers are VERY VERY important especially in less wealthy communities, and you know where I'm going with this.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Sep 3, 2008 -> 10:47 PM) Roland Martin on CNN is RIPPING into Palin for mocking community organizers. He said his parents were community organizers and CLEARLY Palin and the GOP have no clue to their importance. He went hard at her and he seemed pissed. They are VERY important but I don't think community organizing does much to get you ready to be president. I didn't really like her mocking community organizers to be honest, but I think her point was that doing that doesn't do anything to qualify you to be president, and I think that point is valid. I mean I suppose you could say you bring people together doing community organizing and that somehow relates to being good in getting politicans to compromise, but that's about it.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Sep 3, 2008 -> 10:36 PM) was that sarcastic or not? I hope my comments didnt come off as ripping into speech writers at all. No I am dead serious. People who are gifted writers often time aren't great at delivering speeches for some reason, or that's what I've seen in college. I know it's true for me personally.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Sep 3, 2008 -> 10:25 PM) I've always thought I would be a great public speaker as long as someone else writes the speech for me. I'm a bad writer, but a good "down to earth" speaker. Yea, i could have given her speech. We need people like that. Us writers can't deliever a speech AT ALL. QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 3, 2008 -> 10:21 PM) I thought so too. I can see the "charisma" they were talking about. But she reminded me of Hillary in a not-so-good way. Oh for sure on the bolded. She had that smug/arrogance about her, and I can see the Hillary comparisons already in that regard. I personally never minded it too much even from Hillary (other stuff about her bothers me), so I sure won't with Palin. You damn well better believe in yourself if you are going to have a job this important.

QUOTE (CanOfCorn @ Sep 3, 2008 -> 10:17 PM) And Wolf Blitzer should be getting a contract offer from Fox News shortly. Stop slobbering over Sarah, Wolfie. Even if you don't agree with a word of what she said, it was a very well executed speech.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 3, 2008 -> 02:37 PM) Not to mention that whole hurricane thing messing things up a bit... Yeah the schedule has certainly been screwed up by the hurricane as well, but I'd feel bad blaming ratings on a hurricane.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Sep 3, 2008 -> 02:28 PM) Ratings are in, not good.... GOP Convention Broadcast TV Ratings Lower than '04 According to preliminary national data from Nielsen Media Research, the three broadcast networks combined racked up a viewership of less than 11 million viewers, compared with the 14.8 million viewers who watched the networks’ coverage on the comparable night of the GOP gathering in 2004. That's also down from the 12.48 million who watched Senator Hillary Clinton’s call for unity among Democrats last week at that party's convention in Denver. More precise national ratings, as well as cable ratings, will be in later Wednesday. The conventions are ALL about the speeches, and nobody in their right mind will argue the point that the lineup of speakers for the democrats was much more impressive than what the GOP has lined up.

I believe Barack Obama went to a recent DailyKos convention, and I was very saddened to hear that. He should know better than to associate with those people, although a lot of prominent democrats certainly don't ignore the site. I still refuse to relate things said on that site to them though, because that site is really a bastion of ignorance and I certainly don't think high ranking members of the democratic party are ignorant.

Jenks saves the day. We HAD to have that game. Huge win.