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QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 3, 2008 -> 02:37 AM) Is there any way Cleve could win the division? No.

QUOTE (Brian @ Sep 3, 2008 -> 10:39 AM) I think it was pretty obvious that Zambrano has been hurt for a few weeks, maybe a month now. Media has been speculating on it but sounds like Carlos has been too proud. You know something is wrong when he takes himself out of the game. He is usually too stubborn. Very selfish thing for him to do too. He could have hurt himself worse, and who knows how long he might be out now.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 29, 2008 -> 04:15 PM) How come he throws all sliders and can stay healthy, while Linebrink throws all fastballs and can't? Because he's MUCH younger. That, and the fact that Marmol will eventually have major arm problems due to all the sliders he throws. Maybe not this year, but eventually, his arm will blow out big time.

We went from a 72 win team to a team tied for first place in early September. I am not going to hate on our offseason too much.

College football week 1 is fun because you have the sport back, but it's hard to watch. The games are generally ugly because the teams play no preseason games and are rusty, and most major schools play mediocre (if not 1-AA) opponents because they know they'll be rusty with no preseason action. Even a game between two major programs like Tennessee/UCLA was VERY ugly, despite the fact it was close and had a great ending.

QUOTE (Cknolls @ Sep 2, 2008 -> 02:06 PM) Is this comparable to being a member of a black nationalist church for 20 years? Definitely not, because the AIP stuff is fabricated left wing nonsense. http://newsbusters.org/blogs/john-stephens...ce-party-are-fa

QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 2, 2008 -> 01:42 PM) That's kind of irrelevant, because the government f***ed up the case and the evidence was inadmissible. Yeah. He technically hasn't been convicted of anything as far as I know, but that's why. He's not an innocent guy at all, but a beneficiary of government failure (I know, government failure, shocking).

QUOTE (Rex Kicka** @ Sep 2, 2008 -> 11:10 AM) Which is a shame, because minorities in this country pretty much owe their civil rights to LBJ. For all the flowery talk that Kennedy gave, he never planned on delivering more than that. Absolutely 1000 percent true. I wish more people realized this.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Sep 2, 2008 -> 09:46 AM) and people hate Bush. You can argue where he ranks based on merit in terms of all time presidents, but I would think he has to easily be the most hated two term president ever, if not president in general. When the opposing party is saying that the current candidate is just like you as a big part of it's campaign, people accurately claim it will help a certain campaign that you aren't there at it's convention, and so on, it says a lot about your popularity.

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Sep 2, 2008 -> 09:14 AM) This is why democracy is a failed concept. Best post in soxtalk history.

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Sep 2, 2008 -> 01:22 AM) This will be gone tomorrow morning, so all you night-owls will at least get a little bit of a laugh: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea...endid=244796355 Thats the daddy. No it's not. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/r...n_open_sec.html http://www.nypost.com/seven/09012008/news/...r_is_127025.htm THAT'S the daddy. Not sure if he's got a myspace though. EDIT: He does, but I don't have a link. Sounds like a keeper. Oops.

QUOTE (Rex Kicka** @ Sep 1, 2008 -> 11:47 PM) Bush and Cheney will not appear in MN, something that might be a hidden benefit politically for McCain. Also, McCain will accept nomination in person because the storm was less powerful than thought. However in stranger news, today - CNN analyst Donna Brazile pepper sprayed outside the Xcel Center http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail..._pepper_sp.html There is no "hidden" about it, it's a huge benefit, end of story. As for the news with Donna Brazile, that's unfortunate. I'm sure the truth in the story of the protestors today is in the middle though. Yes the police probably used excessive force, but when you have anarchist protestors pushing the line, they are asking for it. I haven't exactly seen anything about peaceful protestors getting beaten down yet. The thing with Ms. Brazile is sad though, I doubt she was causing any trouble and it sounds like a very unfortunate accident.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Sep 1, 2008 -> 04:33 PM) Bristol Palin is flat out off limits in my opinion. I wont even comment on it at all. In my humble opinion, even the best parents in the world have kids that dont follow their moral or ethical standards. And frankly, some people make mistakes. Agreed 100 percent. I also give credit to Obama for taking the high road here, although since his Mom had him when she was only 18, I don't think he had any other choice. I also think that sometimes teen parents turn out well. Obama seems to have been raised very well by a teen Mom, one of my best friends became a parent at 19 and he is a great father, and there are obviously more examples of it. It's not an ideal situation obviously, but it's not uncommon either and it can work. The Bristol Palin marriage thing seems forced (I hope I am wrong, but I doubt it), but besides that, teen pregnancy is something that happens far too often. It might piss off the far right people, and it might make the young Palin a target to some far left people, but the common person won't care too much IMO. And I can honestly say in good faith I'd have the same reaction if Biden had a daughter who became pregnant out of wedlock at 17 too because I have had a best friend (although he was male and 19) go through a similar situation. People make mistakes, especially young people with sex. It's an unfortunate reality in our country, and gets into the how do we educate our kids about this argument. To me, the bigger problem here is I don't think Palin was vetted as well as she should have been. I'm not sure what McCain did and didn't know about her, but I doubt he knew about all of the baggage or he wouldn't have picked Governor Palin as a running mate imo. She obviously seems like somebody who has a bright future in the GOP, but she is very young, very inexperienced, and has a lot of baggage right now to boot. Maybe she'd have been a better candidate in 4 years, or maybe I'm wrong and she'll help now (I feel like I'm speaking my opinions on Obama right now, outside of the gender difference).

QUOTE (scenario @ Sep 1, 2008 -> 02:44 PM) Yep. 4 in the last 10 games. Gotta like that. He's up to .297/.359/.459/.819 at Kanny. Still not great, but a major improvement over his atrocious start. QUOTE (Kalapse @ Sep 1, 2008 -> 02:41 PM) Oney Guillen 1-3 w/ 2B, R Regardless of what the reason is, the fact he's in triple a makes me want to weep. Finally, glad to see John Shelby doing well and go get them tonight Daniel Hudson. /random

Clayton beat King Felix in a game where I thought we had no shot. Now, with that in mind, I still think we'll lose tonight, but hopefully I'm wrong again!!

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Sep 1, 2008 -> 08:02 AM) She doesn't even come close to EA imo. EA is overrated imo. She's a very attractive girl, but people treat her like she's something extraordinary, and she's really not. She's just a hot blonde who people seem to overrate because she happens to do/be into sports. She is wonderful and certainly out of the league of a guy like me, but she's just not the world class looker people seem to think she is. Just my .02.

I know what I believe, but I'm kind of confused what it means. I have always thought of myself as a moderate who leans to the right. I will try and describe some of my beliefs. Religion- I am a practicing protestant (Lutheran) and have strong convictions with my religion. However, I am sad and almost ashamed at times to see how some people who call themselves "christians" treat people outside of the faith. If you are muslim, buddhist, jewish, even atheist, whatever, I don't care. As long as you are a decent person and can respect what I believe, I can respect what you believe, even if we don't agree. I am happy and willing to spread the word of my faith and how I got to where I am, but only to people who want to hear it. I don't want to force it on anybody, but if you ask me about my convictions, I'll tell you. Abortion- I am personally against it, would never encourage anybody to do it unless the mother's life is at risk or rape was involved, but I think it should remain legal. First off, of course, is what happens where abortion is illegal. Of course, you see lots more risky abortions being done by people unqualified for it, and that leads to problems. I believe I read 75 thousand women a year die from ill fated abortions in areas where it is illegal, and abortion is only illegal for 1/4 of the earth's people. Plus, in Mexico, one million women a year seek illegal abortions. These are consequences that people don't think about, but are very legitimate reasons, IMO, to keep abortion legal. As much as you can argue that abortions take away lives before they start, it might save the lives of many women by having them legal since it eliminates the use of back-alley abortions. So I guess I'm personally pro-life, but would like to see the law remain pro-choice. Gay Marriage- I understand that the church is strongly against it. In terms of being gay itself, I have a hard time decided what I think of people who are. I tend to think (and pardon my ignorance if it's obvious, I'm not a doctor) that being gay is something you are born with. I have no problem with people who are gay, and think they deserve rights. I am also not an expert on the difference between marriage and civil unions, so I'll avoid the terminology and just say what I think. I think the churches of America shouldn't be forced to recognize gay marriage. I think it's their right to believe as they wish, and that's fine. However, I think the states (and the country in general) should recognize gay couples as equal, and give them the same benefits a married couple are allowed. I think that makes me for civil unions? But I'm not sure. I think gay couples should be allowed to be parents too without problem. I don't think they are going to "make their kids gay", plus whose to dismiss gay couples as bad parents? Plenty of straight couples can't parent for s***, and gay couples can't be much worse. As for other issues. I was against the war in Iraq from the start, because I was suspecious that the intelligence was bad and thought we needed to pay more attention to the war on terror. I am very strongly for states' rights, I am just as strongly against universal health care, and I think the government should at all costs try to stay out of people's business. I generally can't stand people who I consider to be extremists regardless of party, thus I can't stand George W. Bush and I also can't stand Barack Obama. I wish our government would put partisian politics aside and try to get things done, try to compromise, and try to help the people, but I know it'll never happen. I believe in promoting safe sex first, but am not against promoting abstinence either. People should know how to have safe sex, but abstinence promotion isn't a complete waste of time either. I tend to vote republican the majority of the time, but I'd MUCH rather see a moderate democrat than a right wing republican win a race for office. An ideal government for me would have a mix of moderate lefties and righties willing to listen to each others ideas. I don't know a lot about taxes and the economy, but I'd like to see big business get less breaks, the common man get more, and taxes remain relatively low. I am skeptical of how bad global warming actually is and how much we the people are at fault, but I am pro-green technology, recycling, etc., and want us to treat the planet as well as we can while trying to come up with cleaner energy. So I don't know where that leaves me, but those are some of my beliefs. They look a bit "out there" as I read them over again.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Aug 31, 2008 -> 11:19 PM) But a very wise move of their part. Once again, Obama himself has nothing to do with it, while his minions and sychophants do all the dirty work for him digging in the sewers. Perfect policital arrangement. The best part about the rumor is that one of the main pictures they use for evidence is from 2006, and the baby was born in April of this year. Absolutely outstanding logic. As for Nokona's post in here, well he's shown to be classless in more than a few of his posts, so that's no surprise.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Aug 31, 2008 -> 10:27 PM) Haven't watched them, but BIG OIL BIG OIL BIG OIL BIG OIL BIG OIL BIG OIL BIG OIL BIG OIL BIG OIL BIG OIL BIG OIL BIG OIL and scandal scandal scandal scandal scandal scandal scandal scandal scandal scandal scandal scandal scandal scandal scandal That's all you are going to hear about her from the Dems. What a f***ing waste of time. Well that nonsense is to be expected. But the stuff about how it's either not the governor's kid, it's her daughter's, or Alan Combes blaming the governor for the youngest's disabilities is low, even for the democrats.

Adriana Monsalve of ESPN Deportes is the hottest employee at ESPN. Used to think it was Erin Andrews, but EA is just another girl at the party compared to this young lady: Whoa.

I think the fact that John Kerry said that proves that Palin was a great, maverick pick. Kerry's opinions should be ignored because of the fact he was awful enough to lose to George W. Bush after the nation had seen his abominable work for four years. Listening to his opinion on political decisions is like listening to Michael D. Brown talk about disaster response.

QUOTE (Felix @ Aug 31, 2008 -> 10:34 AM) Obligatory post about Minnesota beating NIU, 31-27. Our defense still sucks and can't tackle, but at least the Weber/Decker combo looks awesome. Yeah I was there, very unfortunate ending to that game, thought we had it. I like our new coach though and I think we might have found an adequate quarterback and a good young wide receiver. You guys aren't great, but you'll win more than one game this year. Probably closer to 4 or 5, which isn't great, but is significant improvement from 1-11. As for Mizzou, they are going to be 12-0 heading to the Big 12 title game if they win in Austin. Nobody else on that regular season schedule is capable of beating them. They'll have problems with Texas Tech or especially Oklahoma if they see them in the championship game of the league though.

QUOTE (DABearSoX @ Aug 29, 2008 -> 10:32 AM) Since most of the people who have been participating in the Filibuster for the last week or so are in here...I would like to say thank you, this has been a pleasent release from White Sox baseball talk. Mostly the people who depress me....its funny you would think politics would piss me off more, but no, just wild negativity for a first place team... This is the only place I've ever found where most of the people are rational and can discuss politics without arguing. I'd come here for the political talk alone, but it's even better as a huge Sox fan that it's a Sox board obviously.

This is the political equivlent of the sports team that picks up the really talented player with legal issues. It could work out incredibly well, or it could completely bomb, but it'll be fun either way.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Aug 29, 2008 -> 10:21 AM) political firing *cough* Justice department *cough* If THAT story is a big deal, then we just are going to have to keep everybody out of office in Washington. I understand it's your obligation at this point to spin everything, but please. Just stick with the very legitimate points that have been handed to you (she has no experience, there goes a lot of the GOP arguments against Obama, etc) and move on.