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ONE MORE!!

QUOTE (joesaiditstrue @ May 16, 2008 -> 12:07 AM) 7 second mandatory delay pisses me off though, i hate the delay between the two I have directv luckily, so the delay is a second at the most. Good start.

The commentary on Hawk in here every game makes me glad I mute it and put on 670.

QUOTE (G&T @ May 16, 2008 -> 12:03 AM) ...but they haven't hit a HR yet, so are the Sox allowed to win? I believe this would be the first time all year if they hold on.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 16, 2008 -> 12:01 AM) Get ready to get blasted for saying you hate this team. Get ready to see me not care. If you don't hate this team at times for the crap they do, then your crazy.

Maybe it's game 5 in 2005 deceiving me, but it always seems like we have decent luck against K-Rod

THANK f***ING GOD FINALLY Thome comes through!!

I hate this team.

f*** At least he got him over

Nice job Dotel, GET A RUN PLEASE.

QUOTE (rangercal @ May 15, 2008 -> 11:48 PM) wow. it's mid-May. I guess there is no hope for Ryan Howard or Prince Fielder either. Ocab is solid with the glove and I am sure he will get to his career averages before the year is over, relax. Well the fact he has lot a step with the glove due to age won't change, and neither will his awful career .719 OPS and mediocre .320 on base percentage lifetime that we have hitting leadoff (although that's not OC's fault).

QUOTE (fathom @ May 15, 2008 -> 11:46 PM) Assuming Uribe is out this weekend, who gets more hits in San Fran: our first basemen, our second basemen, or the pitchers? I'll say 3rd basemen errors top all three of those categories.

QUOTE (BearSox @ May 15, 2008 -> 11:37 PM) ohh, in the past 10 games, he's been hitting .320? wow, that's fantastic! Well, did you know in the past 10 games he has had only 3 rbi's, has scored only 3 runs, and has cost us runs with his defense? Yeah, his slugging percentage has actually somehow gone DOWN in that time. Singles don't make up for game changing error after game changing error.

I hate Crede.

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ May 15, 2008 -> 11:28 PM) He's like 6 for 10 this series... He also has given away multiple games this year with his glove, and has more errors than home runs. He's be awful since the first two weeks, period, no questions asked. Hopefully he makes up for it here, he's lucky we got out of that tied.

QUOTE (rangercal @ May 15, 2008 -> 03:09 PM) I'm still fine with the CLEE trade to this day for obious reasons. We probably would have lost him (after 2006) anyway. The other fascinating part of that move is we could have receiving a much better player as the main guy than Pods and NOT won it all in 2005 because that person wouldn't have been able to lead off. I compare the move to the Darko Milicic draft pick in a way, since it was also a bad move talentwise (for Detroit), but if they hadn't done it that way, they never trade for Rasheed Wallace and likely never have the run they are having right now, and certainly don't win the title in 2003-2004.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 15, 2008 -> 03:00 PM) Jason Isringhausen just cost the Cardinals another game! The Brewers and Cards bullpen has cost them so many games already this season. I knew their bullpens would be bad, but had no idea they'd be this epically awful. One of the VERY FEW things Hawk says that I agree with is the bullpen either is or will soon be the most important part of a team with how mediocre starting pitching is and pitch counts.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 15, 2008 -> 03:01 PM) And just in terms of contract issues, like why I opened this thread...the market right now is pretty darn different from what it was 8 years ago, and so one should certainly take that in to account when managing the money. We saw a couple solid examples of what happens with players who you don't lock up early with Mags and CLee. One walked out of here for nothing after burning every bridge possible, one was traded for well below his value in order to clear salary space and then signed somewhere else for 6/$100. Slightly off topic, but the Carlos Lee trade is one of the more fascinating moves I've ever seen us make. In terms of market talent value, we were ripped off at an epic level in that trade. However, Pods was a catalyst and one of the big reasons for the 2005 World Championship, and Vizcaino was a valuable, rubber arm type guy that ate innings in that pen for large portions of that season. After 2005? We got almost nothing out of either of them (Luis was gone actually), while C Lee continues to produce for other teams. So talentwise, we were hosed bad in that trade, but it was a big reason we won it all in 2005 so it was worth it. Just fun to look at a move like that.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 15, 2008 -> 02:53 PM) LOL. The CQ love has got to stop. I've been posting here since 2003 and I've never seen an entire board orgasm at the very mention of a guy's name. Q has been outstanding. But we're a month and half into a six month season. Let's see if the guy does it for an entire year before we start talking about Hanley Ramirez type contract extensions. Another thing, does Greg Walker get any type of credit for Q's start? He sure does get the blame when a future HOF starts sucking. Well, we probably haven't had a good, young power hitter come up and make an immediate impact like this for us since Paulie (and to a lesser extent, Carlos Lee) in 1999. Obviously, you could include Josh last year as well, but heck, he's on the AAA DL now. Anyways, none of the above started anywhere near as on fire as Q has been. So, to be fair, this is a new thing for us.

QUOTE (Controlled Chaos @ May 15, 2008 -> 02:50 PM) If I'm offering it to someone...I say pop. You want a can of pop? You want a glass of pop? If I'm ordering at a restuarant or something I always say coke and by coke I don't mean coca cola I just mean coke. Then they almost always say...is Pepsi ok?? Actually, that's exactly how I do it too. That would classify as calling it pop though, because at least in my case i'm offering a drink to somebody or hanging out with people and being offered a pop more often than I am ordering it at a restaurant.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 15, 2008 -> 02:48 PM) IIRC the Dbacks didn't want Anderson. They wanted Young, correct? That depends on who you ask. Really, I don't think anybody actually knows the answer to that, but people say they know one way or the other based on how they want to spin that trade. However, Wanne's point is a good one, maybe if we send them BA and he fails, we never get Q.

QUOTE (Heartattack19 @ May 15, 2008 -> 02:44 PM) It is pop!!!! In college we had a bunch of people from St. Louis, they made me crazy with their "soda"... I personally like RC, but coke is a close second. For non cols, Dr. Pepper, Lime Jarriots and Green River. Root Beer has to be berghoff, that is some good stuff! The best tasting pop is from the gun at a bar, granted, i should not drink pop at a bar, but it is the best, i think they use more syrup in thier mix so that it is really sweet. GREAT point in the bold, I forgot to mention that actually. A coca cola from the gun at the bar might surpass anything else listed in the thread. I don't drink alcohol all that often, so I drive quite a bit when my friends and I go out and one of the benefits of being that way is the coca cola at bars tends to be outstanding.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 15, 2008 -> 02:40 PM) I'd like to see Anderson play tonight, as we all know Garland doesn't throw a lot of curves or sliders. Anderson is one of our best straight fastball hitters. True, plus Javy might throw more flyballs than any of our pitches (that's a guess, I know Floyd and Danks throw quite a few too) so it might be busy out there tonight and having good defense in a park that big is always a plus.

QUOTE (rangercal @ May 15, 2008 -> 02:24 PM) I was born and raised in Chicago and call it "soda". That's interesting, where are your parents from?

QUOTE (fathom @ May 15, 2008 -> 02:30 PM) Because those 3 are a pretty good 3 man rotation? Dempser's batting average against is phenomenal. At this point, the only way I see them not cruising to the NL Central is if Zambrano or Marmol get hurt. Dempster is going to head in the opposite direction soon, because he's got the Gavin Floyd batting average against going right now and that's impossible to uphold, especially since Dempster's stuff isn't outstanding. Good news for them is Ted Lilly's ERA is still comfortably above 5, so by the time Dempster comes back to earth, Lilly will probably be getting back towards the 4 even ERA neigborhood he belongs in. Their prognosis is good though, because even if Sheets miraculously stays healthy, the Brewers are going to have a hard time with Gallardo gone and no closer. The Cub pitching staff is VERY thin though, starting and relief, so if they were indeed to lose Zambrano or Marmol, it'd kill their staff.