Princess Dye

They are disappointing you then

We know what Peavy can do. Lets get Hudson in a low pressure start so he gets all the butterflies out before next year.

I kind of agree with those saying you put up with it another year. We all hated his lazy looking throws..but the offense is going to be a huge plus if we can surround him with some real talented hitters higher in the order.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 1, 2009 -> 03:47 PM) I have an off-topic question. you've been posting here for awhile, and I have no idea if you are male and female. I see Princess Dye, and I assume female... or are you just a male trying to be funny? Serious question! If it's a serious question, that use of 'and' is seriously troublesome I'm a man but I will say that my wife has at times gotten on here and posted. So i guess yes you're right i'm male and female.

Seeing how it all shook out ,i wouldve liked to have had Everett on the team in 2006. Just another yr of great quotes/stories perhaps. Joe Cowley has some story about Everett just coming up to him out of the blue and telling him 'ya gotta marry a big woman' and going on about it to like long explanation. It's something to that effect i could be slightly off

What really interests me about all this.... we're ready to move on next year with Pods cheap and no one else brought back. It seems like the kind of memo that's sent around when you dont care a ton about bringing someone back. Willing to go forward into free agency for a corner outfielder........ or with Flowers as a DH as long as they can get a utility player who can catch.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Aug 30, 2009 -> 03:35 PM) Paying that much for that long for Alex Rios is very bad value, even if we have unlimited funds. He is nowhere near the player that contract says he is, and we volunteered to pick him up. I'm just not seeing it with Rios, 11 million a year for several years for a guy with a lot of baggage and isn't hitting isn't an attractive idea to me. I voted for the be patient option in this poll, but that move and the Brandon Allen trade did Kenny no favors this season. With not much ready on the farm, the other options for CF, like it or not are worse. Acquire young cheap guy who has little in the way of a bat? Get another LF/RF and squeeze him into a CF role in exchange for his OBP? I'm fine with paying 11M for a guy who gives you defense and speed, and gives the lower part of the order some XBH potential. If spending is totally finished now, then maybe it's a misuse of funds. But I'm not hating the thought of getting a guy who's 28 with a past record of success and a low BABIP this yr.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Aug 30, 2009 -> 03:31 PM) The Rios move was a TERRIBLE move. Hey, if the White Sox are willing to keep spending, it's a great move. It cost no players. Can't really make this point so bluntly until you know future payroll limitations. If theyre gonna keep adding talent, this will do. Offensive production out of the CF spot can be a whole heck of a lot lower than Alex Rios.

KILL KILL KILL JOSE CONTRERAS THAKN YOU FOR 05 Oddly enough if this year were actually a contending team, it would hurt a lot more to see Jose fall apart and become a shell of his past self. Well to see him continue being a shell of his past self. In short I feel like the last few yrs he has had decent stretches but this year he's just been completely totally done.

Ive mentioned it before, but i think Jose shouldve been tried as a reliever long ago. Very often has a good first inning or two, then loses focus. Not great at holding people on. OK now i'm trying to think of good things...

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Aug 29, 2009 -> 12:25 PM) That's the first time i've seen group sex brought up in a game thread. or maybe even any non-Brian Anderson thread...

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Aug 29, 2009 -> 12:23 PM) It was definitely a missed call but CATCH THE BALL NIX! If he catches the ball, not only is there no problem here, but we might get a double play. Blaming the ump there is kind of like Pitino blaming the media. If you dont commit the initial mistake, none of the other baggage piles on. OK it's like that but w/o the group sex.

This defense. Is this year over yet? Go Chicago Fire. Last game they were down 2-0 in the 70th minute and scored 3 straight goals to come back and win in regulation Lets just root for that team instead.

Our current problems are the older guys not doing what they used to do - as well as Quentin having an entire year of readjusting post-injury. So it's not on Walker, it's on older guys that used to be able to do it--not being able to do it anymore. And above all, on KW for not taking advantage of the great buyers market with guys like Hudson and Abreu out there....and then going ahead and spending way more on Rios and Peavy (2010 onward that is). I'm fine with the 2 we acquired, but it just highlights how we couldve spent and didnt before the year. I know Hudson woulda cost picks. But he's great and fills needs.

QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Aug 28, 2009 -> 04:31 PM) Contreras should be starting Saturday now that Peavy can't go. Otherwise the Sox have to cut/DL somebody to make room for the spot starter. Since they haven't used Jose out of the bullpen, they might as well start him Saturday. Because of that roster expansion, I think DL-ing Lillibridge would make sense ...PR is his best attribute and that can be replaced with a call-up. Granted I dont know when Hudson's last start was.......but just on a theoretical level, dont you start Hudson against the Yanks and just pray --hey it's a live arm with control, assume you have a fighting chance seeing as how they've never seen him before... at least enough to get you through 5 to get to Carrasco? I wouldnt say this if Jose hadnt been so consistently bad besides the KC start.

the update also mentioned that Colon is AWOL again. Can the Sox fine him in order to recoup some of that salary? What the hell?

670 is kind of teasing this right now on the radio so he'll go in depth in a minute when he's on(Cowley) Theyre making it sound like it's Jose for sure.

according to http://twitter.com/Cst_Sox

Would this mean Rays are less likely to trade Crawford? Could it also mean Bobby Abreu leaves LAA next yr? Could have ramifications for Sox plans.

QUOTE (WCSox @ Aug 28, 2009 -> 12:19 PM) That's an incredibly silly comparison. Contreras hasn't been consistently good since early 2006. Dye was hitting over .300 with 20 HRs right before the ASB. Dye's already been dropped in the order and has gotten several days off lately. What else do you want them to do? DFA him? It wasnt a comparison of players though. Just the situations. What was brought up is -- paraphrased:"think about 05 before you let him go" In my view, you should never think about 05 for anything having to do with 2009 or 2010. 2005 is for the DVD player alone. I would agree if someone said i'm being too finicky but it's just a consideration that some make which bothers me. Here's the exact quote

While I agree that many fans dont know exactly why they boo him....... c'mon, he'd be exactly the kind of guy on the other team we'd hate. One person I know said he has one of those "punchable faces" Hell, we've hated him when he was a Twin, no? Most of us dont know these guys personally, but we overblow reasons for both loving or hating pro athletes. Twin fans have a very specific problem with him. Apparently he once stepped (obviously hard) on Morneau's ankle on a close place at first, and (while I cant say I remember the replay) it's been told to me that the foot did not at all look like it was in his direct line of running.

Stick with the minimalist thread title approach. Also Kotsay we should stick with. In August, .348/.407/.522 EDIT: But maybe not vs. C.C. Rios and Dye have hit CC well in the past. Pods barely at all.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Aug 27, 2009 -> 04:19 PM) this season would've been over before July had Dye not hit .302 before the break. Keep it in mind while you're kicking a world series MVP out the door. Shall we keep Contreras in the rotation? He was arguably the 05 staff ace. I think one thing that separated this organization from the Cubs, especially the 80s-90s Cubs, is their willingness to make moves that you need to make. The Cubs kept trotting out lovable favorites like Dunston,Grace, long after their peak usefulness. The organization has long been a business first, contending-hopefuls second. Meanwhile, things like the White Flag trade, while unpopular --were our best course of action. We've won. The Sox will do things the public doesnt like, but they have to be done. It's like raising a kid. You do things for the kid that are for their best interests, even though they dont realize it/like it. I'm not like people here that are hating on Dye verbally, I just feel like it's time the organization either keep him here super cheap, or cut ties. More likely the latter.

QUOTE (Pumpkin Escobar @ Aug 27, 2009 -> 10:11 AM) Won't matter. Those .375 obp guys will get into scoring position and will pop up into foul territory, strike out, or ground into a double play. Eventually you need someone with some balls and can step up in the clutch. Then next inning - we'll do it again. This is the team I expected to see all season. Had it not been for Detroit being god awful and Minnesota struggling - we wouldn' be remotely in one of these races. What a pathetic bunch of players. I'm not really in agreement with every point on this. I think there's two position players that need to be replaced with established still-productive vets. Both are corner outfielders. That's replaceable. I dont put it past them to go out and get Abreu on a short term deal this offseason. That takes care of one. DH....well we'll see. I have my own thoughts on how to handle that within the system, but it involves bringing in Flowers and a utility guy who can catch. A cheap viable solution. Thome my homie can always return if he's willing to take a huge discount just to chase the ring and 600.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Aug 27, 2009 -> 09:29 AM) I'm for it, but Ozzie is exceedingly loyal, which is both good and bad. You won't see Dye benched for awhile yet. I cant wait til we have the first manager to visibly use laptops in the dugout. I am not anti-ozzie but that loyalty thing really has hurt us. Honestly we probably won it in 05 because a lot of longstanding bonds had just been broken, a lot of the team was brand new.