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QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Sep 5, 2012 -> 05:26 PM) Then you have no respect what-so-ever for somewhere around half of MLB. PEDs are everywhere in baseball. Never watch any football game. Common sense tells you guys that big don't run that fast.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Sep 5, 2012 -> 11:06 AM) If the Sox don't make the playoffs the offensive downgrade from Quentin to Viciedo will be at the top of the reasons why list. Well, I that's just ridiculous. Also, answer the original question. Who do you want?

If there was a player I wouldn't be surprised about cheating to get a competitive advantage, it would be AJ. That's mostly just because I think he's an asshole though.

I'd like to see the list of players who don't do PEDs. I bet it's pretty small.

KW: We have to play smarter. Soxtalk: f*** you. Keep it the clubhouse you rat bastard. There's really nothing to see here.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 4, 2012 -> 08:54 PM) He looked good there, but there's no doubt Veal should be the LOOGY for next year. I'd rather see Veal be LH setup to take Thornton's place.

Missed the mayhem...Was Quintana getting rocked? Was it bad luck or a combination?

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Sep 4, 2012 -> 06:54 PM) It's not impossible that Trout could be a Gordon Beckham next season. I think fans' expectations going back to last year of Viciedo was not very realistic. When was the last time the Sox had a good arm in LF? One team has a Trout be we have a Sale. Beckham and Trout aren't even in the same stratosphere. Beckham is like boning a drunken 5 while eating a Tombstone.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Sep 4, 2012 -> 06:49 PM) How long should a big revenue team like the Sox wait for Viciedo to reach his potential? LF'ers are a dime a dozen. Find me a cheaper player who is available, will put up the same numbers, and with a similar ceiling. Viciedo is near the bottom of rational fans worries. Was the Cuban Missle Crisis super dramatic for you or something?

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 4, 2012 -> 06:19 PM) C isn't exactly a great grade. I don't think of the tone of my posts suggested Viciedo was scum. More like blah (for this season). At least that was my intent. I don't discount room for improvement though the fan in me wished for runaway success like Trout. For instance, I don't want the Sox to trade him and I do want him to open next season as starting leftfielder. Trout is having the best rookie season in history. He's like eating good pizza while boning a supermodel. I expected 270/20/70/300 from Viciedo with awful defense. Next year, I'd expect 280/25/85/325 while continuing to play good defense.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 4, 2012 -> 05:57 PM) I have no problem with Viciedo; I'm merely pointing out he's having an average at best season considering his BA and on base percentage to go with his overall production of runs. I'd give him a C. If he really is only 23, I guess I'd up that to a C plus. What would you give him? Within 2 pages you went from lousy and abysmal to C+. It's hard to take you seriously.

QUOTE (Jake @ Sep 3, 2012 -> 10:30 PM) The reasons for thinking Q may improve are for one, again, he hasn't even given up that many runs in this tougher stretch he's had. Moreover, his experience against tough competition is little since he was only a marginal choice to be in AA this year. He's at an all-time high in IP at this point and likely is going out there with a bit less than 100% physically most nights. Getting more durable for the stretch run after having a real MLB grind under his belt should leave him able to be a damn good starter. And if he's a 4.3 ERA starter, I'm happy with that too. During his slump I've been impressed with his ability to get himself out of jams. His whip has been astronomical but his era is still decent. This tells me he really knows how to pitch. Anybody who has a problem with Jones and Viciedo is either baseball stupid, or has a clear agenda which doesn't allow them any objectivity.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 2, 2012 -> 10:03 PM) For a few weeks, Rios has been flying open and unable to cover that pitch on the outer half that everyone has been throwing him. Maybe we have a failure to communicate. You want him to pull the ball more, right? You want him to turn on outside pitches?

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 2, 2012 -> 09:59 PM) You know they have no power at all to the opposite field? Rios is having a good year because he's covering both sides of the plate. btw, when you "stay on top of it," it doesn't mean to pull the ball like you're asking for.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 2, 2012 -> 09:54 PM) He has no chance if he keeps hitting it in the air to center/right. Doesn't have the power needed to do that successfully. Alexei and Rios have to stay on top more and start driving it to LF again. This couldn't be more wrong. Look at his spray chart. Carry on with the crying though. You do it well.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 2, 2012 -> 09:40 PM) You have to be f***ing kidding me. Myers in to finish the game. Perhaps they know something about the contract you don't? They're too cheap to be that dumb.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 2, 2012 -> 09:22 PM) Our guys aren't going to do the unsportsmanlike thing and embarass Cabrera. It's not right, you know. We wouldn't try to take advantage of him like that even with a division at stake. I'm just calling the Sox out on their being p*****s and failing to show up and win one damn game in Detroit again. That's all they had to do, win one lousy game instead of make this one of the worst weekends of my baseball life. I can be furious at their laying down against Detroit, but yes there is a chance the Sox could still make the playoffs. Detroit could start sucking again. If Detroit sucks and the Sox win at home and lose on the road the rest of the way, playoffs are still possible. :lolhitting :lolhitting

QUOTE (Jake @ Sep 2, 2012 -> 09:06 PM) Looks pretty normal to me? 91-93 this entire game You're right. He had pretty good stuff tonight.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 31, 2012 -> 09:15 PM) When ADA gets back, you have to consider sitting Viciedo more against RHP. That shoulder injury seemed to ruin any rhythm he might have been getting into. I wouldn't risk it. He still has time to get hot and carry the team. He crushed a ball tonight that's a HR in every other park around. I'd rather have the ceiling be much higher than the floor raised a little.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Aug 31, 2012 -> 08:56 PM) Jesus f***ing Christ, we may get swept, but can we just play the damn games without the constan pessimism. Why do some of you even follow this team if all you ever want to do is predict doom and gloom. Good post. Both these teams do suck right now though.

QUOTE (JohnCangelosi @ Aug 31, 2012 -> 08:52 PM) I think most people deep down knew we're getting swept this weekend. We can't beat the tigers in Detroit right now. That's just the truth. We can still win this, however, after being tied for the division lead on Sept 3. Why not? The Tigers suck. This series is about which team can out suck the other one. Both these teams are going to get worked in the play off unless they pick it up.

With how s***ty the rest of the team has looked, I can't even get mad at Thornton.

QUOTE (Jake @ Aug 31, 2012 -> 08:39 PM) Thornton was not a good matchup for these guys. They're all fastball hitters. And doesn't throw ground balls.

This is one ugly game played by 2 teams who aren't very good right now.

That was the worst looking charge by a 3rd baseman I've ever seen in my life. Seriously. I came to the gamethread specifically to make fun of that fat f***.