TaylorStSox

It's a logical fallacy to use systemic/societal problems to an individual case that's been heavily investigated. Believing Clevinger was falsely accused, or was unfairly judged, after rigorous scrutinization doesn't mean one doesn't recognize that we have an incredibly huge problem when it comes to victim blaming in cases of domestic abuse.

He really should sue them.

You're basically saying there is no measure in which you would believe Clevinger, which is so fundamentally ridiculous that I can't believe I'm addressing it. I believe MLB would gladly throw the book at Clevinger if they had any evidence whatsoever, especially after breaking Covid protocol. But hey, you made up your mind about the situation despite knowing less than those assigned to rule on the matter, so what's the point of continuing?

Sorry, I should have said lack of evidence. He went through the process and was cleared. You've basically made up your mind about something you ultimately have no idea about. Those in charge of the investigation know a hell of a lot more than you, and cleared him to play. It's not a good look for you.

So despite all evidence and findings proving otherwise, you're still ready to send the guy to the Gulag? Seems Fascist, tbh.

So, there was due process, he was cleared by MLB, and you're upset about his intro song, something his teammate may have done on social media, and further claims by the person he was cleared of abusing? That's really bizarre.

Bauer was suspended by MLB for 194 games. How are they comparable?

Clevinger was cleared by the league of all wrong-doing and hasn't had any issues while a White Sox, correct?

Message boards are just dying. This board used to be fun even when we sucked bad because there were a lot of funny personalities.

It was a relief appearance.

Wait until you hear about Crede, Rowand, AJ, Buerhle and Anderson. Those guys were hammered drunk their entire White Sox career. Buerhle even pitched in the World Series hammered.

This is pretty much every baseball player though. Anybody who has worked in the bar industry around the West Loop and Lakeview can attest. Ball players are out every night of the week.

I think his back is far more fucked than he's admitting.

If you can't laugh at Jerry making fun of the absolute evil piece of human s%*# that is Mitch McConnell, your priorities are all fucked up.

I understand that. The Sox aren't the Cubs though. When the majority of your games are at night, do you really need a bunch of bars in the neighborhood on a Wednesday night? The Sox have a marketing problem. Really, they have a winning problem.

Why do they need a "ballpark village?"

I don't know the economics behind it, but I would think competent ownership would prefer to play in a stadium with established infrastructure in proximity to the Loop, South Loop, McCormick Place, Pilsen, Chinatown, Bridgeport and NW Indiana would be preferable than a faceless ball mall in a suburb with no identity. I could be wrong though.

San Jose is an hour from Oakland. If the Sox move an hour from Chicago, that would be an absolute shame. The White Sox have been a part of the South Side of Chicago for 115 years. It's part of the franchise identity.

A lot of the A's issues have been with the city specifically, and it's inability to fund and support an MLB team. Chicago doesn't have that issue.

It's far, far easier to navigate around GRF than the UC or Wrigley on game day. There are more roads, e-ways and train lines. There are just way more choices. Red Line, Green Line and Dan Ryan expansions were all built with the stadium in mind.

I live in Bridgeport.

They're really not bad. Damen is a mess on Bulls game days and concerts. Clark and Addison are a mess on Cubs game days. The Red Line is a disaster for every non Cubs fan on game days. It's the nature of large scale events. 35th actually moves well all things considered. Transportation to GRF is better than both of the other sports stadiums in the city.

The comparison to the A's is kind of absurd. Oakland has a population of 440,000. It's twice the size of Aurora, and it's a dump.

The Sox don't have to be top 10 in attendance to be profitable for the franchise and the city. People have the wrong mindset. The Sox are never going to be the Cubs, and that's okay. It really doesn't matter. It would be a travesty for the city, especially the South Side, to let the Sox move. The Sox have strong branding and a somewhat strong identity. Bridgeport is a great neighborhood. Transportation to the stadium is outstanding. Just win some damn games consistently.

Get your own material.