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Good thing RV once again wrote off a game before it's over.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jun 25, 2016 -> 02:25 PM) I maintain that it helps when you throw strikes problem is, as we've found "a strike" varies. Having a good framing catcher helps, alot.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 06:28 PM) What is purpose of shuck? Seriuosly? When saladino went in to run for avila, navarro should have hit for schuck. What is the purpose of Avi? He's had almost 250 PA and his wRC+ of 81 is actually WORSE than last year. I'm sick of these bums. Why are we the only f***ing org that cannot find a cheap, halfway productive DH? Scouting, that's why. Scouting and player development.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 05:04 PM) Hahn is coming up with a new fireable offense every week if he does that. The White Sox system used to be good at least at producing serviceable relievers. Ynoa has some potential, but Beck just doesn't belong at the major league level. Albers is toast and his confidence is shot. Jennings and Duke have been the bright spots. Robertson is starting to teeter as well. Don Cooper isn't earning his paycheck anymore.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 03:36 PM) Good call by Robin there, having him throw a sac fly instead of a grand slam. I would have called strikeout, though. what's your deal? He inserted Chris Beck into a high leverage situation. he does this repeatedly. It's playing with fire. It's also very unbecoming for a mod to troll like this imo.

WHy is Avi still on this 25 man roster?

signs of life. I'll take it. At the end of the day and season this is probably a .500 club. At least try and make it an interesting Sep.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 22, 2016 -> 07:37 PM) For reference's sake that is the 32nd runner the Red Sox have lost on the bases this year. The White Sox have lost 23. sample bias, lol. Sox have a much lower "N" value.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jun 22, 2016 -> 08:04 PM) @ChiTribKane With 2 runs so far tonight, White Sox end streak of giving Jose Quintana 1 run of support or less in 7 straight starts. jesus.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 22, 2016 -> 02:49 PM) What is the percentage of advancing runners when not bunting? I'm guessing nowhere near 64%. In a tight game, depending on the hitter, there is no reason to moan about a bunt. The vast majority of the time you play for one run, you score one run. With such a s***ty offense giving away outs is pouring gasoline on a tire fire.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 22, 2016 -> 02:37 PM) Is it worth noting again that the White Sox are only right now successful on 64% of their bunt attempts (which is right at the league average)? 1/3 of the times guys try to bunt, they fail to successfully sacrifice before there are 2 strikes on the batter, on average. Some guys are better than that, but some guys are also much worse. So about 1/3 of the time the bunt is called for, the out is given away without accomplishing anything. For comparison, in the runner on first, 1 out or less case, the White Sox hit into a DP 11% of the time. exactly! Bunt defenders seem to treat the players like robots that will always get a good bunt down. Guess what, it's 2016 and most MLB players suck ass at bunting. That is must mind blowing that 34% of the time the Sox are just saying "here, have this out". f***ing s*** man. I'm glad I took a step back from this season I'm getting enraged again at the stupidity of this org.

Hard to believe it's 2016 and people are still defending bunts. There are very limited times the bunt is useful. Those times are in the 7th, 8th and 9th when you are tied or behind by one run and you have a mediocre hitter at the plate. That RV is bunting in the 1st inning with the guy he puts 3rd is absolute insanity.

QUOTE (VAfan @ Jun 21, 2016 -> 04:37 PM) I wonder why so many of the players the Sox have acquired have underperformed once they got here. Even the great guys like Abreu are no longer pulling their weight. When has Todd Frazier ever been a .198 hitter? Even Eaton just totally stunk it up at the beginning of last season. Same with Melky for most of last season. This strikes me as the MAJOR problem for the White Sox. On paper, the Hahn moves have not been so bad if the players he acquired performed to projections. I mean, when has David Robertson ever blown a 7-1 lead in the 9th inning? It's just bizarre what has happened. The topper, of course, is the James Shields acquisition. The guy has been a horse for years. 200 innings could be counted on. Not a top notch guy any longer, but you would think he'd be a plus as a 4th or 5th starter. Yet he's looking like one of the most spectacular flame outs in major league history. BIZARRE. the MLB coaching staff is bottom 1/3 in the league that's why. Probably bottom 5.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jun 21, 2016 -> 04:16 PM) it's positive to hear that Hahn has such self-awareness. It's frustrating imo. Ventura isn't part of the solution. That means he is part of the problem. Hahn's moves have generally been mediocre at best but RV's tactical decisions actively hurt the team on a weakly basis. His leadership, while less tangible, appears to be awful as well given how many players under-perform on a yearly basis under him.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jun 20, 2016 -> 05:55 PM) Just waking up from a nap to see this. Way to have your managers back even if you're close to firing him. This doesn't shock me however because this organization is in shambles and ran like s***. It's no wonder this team doesn't win. They don't know how to from top to bottom. I expect another s***ty four more years unless they catch lightning in a bottle like 2005 or 2008. right, seems like the pressure is getting to everyone. s***ty answer by a guy that should know better and know exactly what he's going to say about RV the moment he walks into the interview room.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 20, 2016 -> 05:42 PM) They won't even give him a vote of confidence. For an organization that doesn't like to telegraph its moves, that is a jarring non-statement. Hahn has to be smarter than this. You either give him the dreaded vote of confidence or you spout a platitude like "we evaluate everyone on a daily basis blah blah blah".

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jun 20, 2016 -> 06:02 PM) Colleen Kane ‏@ChiTribKane 2m2 minutes ago Rick Hahn gave same line on Robin Ventura: "I don’t think it’s in anybody’s best interest to comment on the status of anybody in uniform." what a f***ing clown show.

QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Jun 20, 2016 -> 03:10 PM) I'm guessing he has the wrong link: http://www.southsidesox.com/2016/6/20/1197...-jerry-its-over Larry is great. He basically said everything perfectly and didn't put the blame on anyone but where it should go -- at the ENTIRE ORG. There needs to be sweeping changes. Yea RV sucks tactically, yea Hahn has made some poor additions, yea the scouting staff sucks -- THEY ALL SUCK. I also like that he pointed out how much less success Cooper is having finding "his guys". Cooper is far from blameless and the fact that nobody even really considers him part of the problem is another problem. The entire staff needs brooming.

When almost every single player under performs projections, both fan and saber, for years, it's time to question the man leading those players. This is a pattern and the pattern is that under RV the team underachieves relative to the talent on the roster. Most people on this forum projected the team to be around 82-88 wins. If they win less than that there is NOT A CHANCE IN HELL YOU BRING BACK RV YET AGAIN. The White Sox are basically Einstein's definition of insanity. They do the same thing over and over and over that doesn't work. INB4 Dick Allen's "but what if they fire RV and it turns out he was really a HOF manager".

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jun 15, 2016 -> 08:12 PM) Oh this season was over a couple weeks ago. I'm only watching to see Anderson. This team is awful, pathetic, can't win divisional games with the exception of Minnesota, the manager is a f***ing moron on a daily basis and the organization could give a s*** about an actual direction to choose. QFT

who gives a s*** about the cy young how bout they win a damn series? Seriously, hard for me to give half a s*** about a cy young when it looks like yet another season over before July.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 15, 2016 -> 06:52 PM) Who was it? I wonder how sarcastic that last question/comment was, how it came across? At least Ventura last night showed a willingness to change back to Shuck, which FINALLY happened again today. He pretty much had no choice, as there were no credible arguments left for leaving him out there in the field when it was causing so many problems for the pitchers, who are already struggling as is without giving additional opportunities to the opposition. he knows the end is near. dead man walking.

wait did eaton bunt down 4 runs? this team is so f***ing stupid. I've never seen a team that likes to play for one run so much. Guess what, play for one run, you get one run more often than not.

QUOTE (harkness @ Jun 14, 2016 -> 08:37 PM) I could agree with that... but "I can tell you guys have never managed before or played baseball" Not sure that would qualify. I played a lot of ball, little league, to American Legion, to showcases to eventually a really mediocre DIII career at my 1st choice academic school. I can certainly say that from my experience a good manager mattered. The players know when the manager isn't putting them in the best position to win. The players know when a manager is disorganized, or in contrast, organized. While I certainly never set foot in a pro clubhouse I did interact different levels of instructors and personnel on our college spring training trips. The level of organization between our s*** DIII outfit verse say a Florida juco draft factory was night and day. While such a difference is no doubt less pronounced at the MLB level I still believe that there is a difference between say John Maddon and RV. From practice drills on down to running team meetings.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jun 14, 2016 -> 07:42 PM) Trying to showcase Avi's outfield skills isn't going so hot lol not saying it's you by any means but WTF is this "showcasing" idea? We all know he sucks out there. How about just trying to win games, and that would mean not ever playing in RF except in an emergency. That they were one injury to an old ass, often injured player and boom he's right back out there 3-5 times a week is a huge failure to plan.