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andrew vaughn is a staggering -66.7 runs below average in his 4 years playing "defense".

Apples oranges. Teams sports are clearly different. A lot of the skills in team sports, especially at the middle and HS level, are applicable across them, including leadership, playing withing a team concept, knowing your role, etc. With the individual sports there is none of that and in many ways you need to grow as your own advocate / best coach / sports shrink early to get an advantage. DFW has a good essay about this on his tennis career that stalled out after college.

Well, at least the Sox aren't on the hook for 200+ million for Robert. I said at the time I thought the Julio deal was an overpay, especially on years. I have been proven right. Julio is on pace for 2 WAR despite being relatively healthy until this last stretch with his ankle. He's not an elite defensive CF just a good one and he has serious launch angle issues himself at the plate. Frankly I'd rather have Robert on his deal going forward.

Ho. lee. fuk. The Mariners announced Wilson as the MANAGER GOING FORWARD! JUST MERGE THE FUCKING TEAMS! IT'S THE SPIDERMAN MEME! EDIT: it just keeps getting BETTER. Scott learned of his firing via a breaking news on his PHONE! He was scheduled to meet with management later today. Wow.

Him and Lloyd Mcclendon always gave the best answers to the media. Rare guys that would be funny and honest. I guess they went with Dan Wilson, who has really no experience. We'll see how he does.

Nah, it was a shitty day because they solved nothing and in fact double, tripled down on in house bullshit hires. f*** this entire franchise. Fire Getz.

Montgomery hitting 206 with a 696 OPS, oof. I hate it here.

The Mariners have fired Scott Servais. The fall guy.

By the time I got down the book it was 59.5 for the O/U and I swear if it had been 60.5 I would have bit. There's just something about betting on a team to lose 103 games, even one as bad as the Sox, that seems absurd. I should have trusted my gut. Hell, should have juiced it up to under 45.

"guys, all you gotta do is win ONE OUT OF THREE GAMES rest of the way to avoid the record." "Best I can do is one out of four"

They need to go like 10-24 rest of the way to avoid beating the Mets' post WWII record. Do they have it in them? We'll find out.

Just looking at the box, and I know offense is historically low this year, but these slash lines are SHOCKING. Both teams are trotting out a half dozen guys with an OBP below 280 and an OPS below 650.

In the grand scheme of things if we had Jake Burger we'd have 1 more win this year. On any sort of real franchise this would just be a deal that gets done every year and nobody really cares either way how it turns out. On our pathetic franchise it sticks out I guess.

It's a sad state of affairs when we are even discussing this.

Yea I don't have kids but I'm fairly involved in local sports and most the kids from what I can tell are playing at least two sports. I'm always a little surprised as someone that grew up during the height of "just do one sport" era parenting that a lot of guys looking to go D1 in football are also pretty damn good on the baseball diamond or basketball court. I don't think that specialization is behind the arm injuries. I just think it's physics. Guys are throwing harder, younger, than ever. The elbow just can't handle it unless you are some super freak, and even then eventually it will likely go like Verlander.

Just get the surgery.

The white Sox now have -5.2 fWAR from position players. I believe this is the worst ever and will finish as the worst ever.

every 3rd inning you get the wild card: anything from a fan pitching to a race in the OF for a run occurs. go wild.

Demographics of this board are showing in this thread. I'm 41. I've lived about half my life in a world where pitcher wins don't matter. Younger fans it's all they know. They don't care about 300 innings in a season or 20 wins or whatever they care about team wins and WHIP and K rate and so on. This is like lamenting that there aren't any 50 save guys anymore and we need to change the rules to make that happen. Who fucking cares other than nostalgic old timers looking back with a biased eye?

sure, change the rules, don't dictate who you can play.

They set the record for quickest 10 game division lead blown. It was like 32 games or something, they managed it in 26 or something. Losers.

So I was right about all of this. I'm taking a victory lap. Those dumb idiots rushed Julio back and now he's out again. They are now 4 back in the division and playoff odds are down to 33%. They are the White Sox West Coast. Everything about them is the same. Everything. Even the injury s%*#.

I can't think of anything even close. Maybe like some NFL substitution rules but that doesn't even begin to extend into requiring players to play a certain designated amount of plays.

telling teams how they can and can't use their pitchers without being punished is insane. this is an order of magnitude more disruptive than anything they've changed in the last few years. it is a complete non starter (pun intended).