chitownsportsfan

Christ it's morning and we're still having this e-peen contest? Has there been any on-topic news this morning about the shakeup?

Soxtalk after dark.

leave it to you to bring the conversation on topic. the critical line there is it's likely to an "internal promotion". This is very on brand, the White Sox Way.

thanks, physio. what is it about baseball boards and pedantry? never mind. don't answer that.

I think @ptatc and other trainers would readily tell you that just in the last 20 years there's been a revolution in the science of performance -- in more ways than one. This has naturally led to increased velocity. Just read the opening chapter of The MVP Machine it's all just physics. Faster you rotate your arm, faster that ball is coming out. And with video analysis, force measuring sensors, portability of technology and scalability (not to even mention diet and advanced physical training) -- it's all come together to help athletes run faster, jump higher and throw baseballs harder than ever on human earth.

you're a great poster there are many here not even worth arguing with so yea.

lol the year they supposedly "rigged" the velocity increase via measurement change in '17 it actually went down. you can't make this shit up.

and here you are arguing with the rest of us here on Soxtalk on a Wednesday night. christ dude I know you have some issues with stepping outside your own head but your posts tonight have been condescending, rude, and obstinate at times.

If you had that list in OOTP you'd have a 20/35 brown bar next to every guy and one time out of thousand one of them actually pans out into something more than a decent regular. If the Sox get one useful player out of that group I'd be happy. For every optimistic take that says Blake will grow into his frame and start to hit for power 8/10 guys like him never do find the power and remain AAAA talents or in his case probably a 4th OF.

No kidding! Every single baseball fan that wants to understand the statistical revoltuion in baseball needs to read Tom Tango's work. It, more than money ball (not even close) explains the beauty of the game to the math inclined. I don't even really like math I got a C- in calc and dropped it but baseball only has so many outcomes, broken up into nice little discrete chunks, and the players replicate the dice rolls every single night for us to put into our databases and run the regressions on. This stuff, wOBA, the linear weights of events that led to its creation, this shit now almost 30 years old and many were working on more primitive (but still better than OPS) versions long before that. In many ways fans that are just learning about sabermetrics now (with fWAR for example) are trying to learn Calculus when they can't do factoring or order of operation. It ain't going to work.

I posted last night about many posters' inability to assess a spectrum of future outcomes and then properly group and weight them. Some people refer to it as "smearing" outcomes. I think you have a blind spot here you also argue it with your "hit is vastly more valuable than a walk" trope. Tom Tango already did all the math on this shit he has the run values let me see if I can find his link. Here you go. Data is a bit dated but it's still relevant. Look at the data on runs scored with 1 out runner on 1st. A walk is almost identical to a hit. You can read the rest of the table yourself I'm sure. Mostly you'll find the same. In many cases, some surprising, a walk is equivalent to a hit for scoring runs.

intuitively that makes perfect sense as a soft looping line drive looks "same in the box score" as a rocket. This might be in part some of the origins of the "level swing back up the middle" theory of hitting that prevailed for so long until the launch angle revolution and so much batted ball data for MLB scouted players.

I mean I only took undergrad level stats but I can tell you that expecting to see such a strong correlation with only one variable in BABIP is wrong. Most of the calculator are using 5-7 variables including batted ball data like pull rate and hard hit %.

come on kid deserves a W.

what a play!

lopez gonna be out there in the 11th at 100 pitches and a zero zero game.

what a studmuffin.

his stuff is so good tonight the hard contact has been minimal to say the least. most of their hits have been dribblers and ducksnorts.

He's thrown 12 balls and 4 of them are this inning. And a dribbler gets through, damnit.

if any of them had shown an ability to take a walk in the minors I'd agree but it's not like he has any clay to work with.

Nice play Yoan.

sounds about right.

what's he gonna do with adam engel? tell him to take a tennis racket up there?

7 pitch inning 2nd time through. Come on. You could see it coming a mile away in the box when you had reed, yolmer engel packed at the bottom. There are probably AAA affiliates that have a better bottom 3rd of the order.

followed by a classic adam engel lunged two hopper to 3B. mercy. get these fucking bums GONE NEXT YEAR.