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wow. perfect example of TINSTAAPP. I'd imagine he'll want to go to a club where he has a path to being a rotation guy. Depending on how the Sox' offseason goes might be a NRI candidate but I bet someone bites on him for 3-5 million and guaranteed roster spot.

Ron Karkovice to be his battery mate multiple sauces confirmed.

@ChiSox59 he's a Domer! Explains a lot imo.

Nolansplaining. Part of the reason I no longer bother with Sox Machine.

Cocaine's a helluva drug.

I just laughed at the part of the article where "123 million spent on Abreu and Grandal" was tossed out as a "reason" they couldn't afford Wheeler. Come on. That's ash tray money in today's MLB. If that's where they are at financially then just give up on competing.

Yea be smart and mature. I think he's a smart guy but youth + money sometimes doesn't mix well even for smart young men. That said, other than potential off field trouble I love that he's playing. Shows a real desire to work on his weaknesses.

It was for the big upgrade to the new forum software. I think they went from like a decade old version of Invision to this one. They did a good job maintaining the database and making sure they got it done right. I used to admin SQL databases shit is stressful.

Predicting things is really hard. Everybody that predicts will be mostly wrong. Nature of the biz. It's fun to speculate but often it's just speculation.

But this is the INTERNET!

I think that's the case. If nothing else JR orgs are known for doing these sort of "solids" for guys.

Yea because he's an automatic out!

Maybe a trade happening where non 40 man prospects are shipped out.

Sheehan is just writing the obvious. You can tell he's not a fan of the Sox' FO and hasn't' been going on two decades online now but the Sox have earned it.

Time for Rutherford to shit or get off the pot in 2020.

damn you archived my dumb three beers in post after I deleted.

Same ownership group gave Jabari Parker 40 million :-)

He'll still be subject to the penalty WAR gives for being a DH and his WAR will still be almost 100% dependent on his slash line.

Yea but Jose doesn't have a "team" that reports to him and then he gets bonuses based on being a great leader and such in charge of widget quality control with the best ratio of good widgets to bad widgets in the history of the company under his watch. Leadership and mentor-ship and guidance matter, but you can't measure them in baseball. And if you can't measure it...

The list is long.

Thanks for the debate strong opinions make good message board posters. I just bust your chops 'cause I respect you as a poster, apathy is what I reserve for gre...others.

I'm using abstractions and conditions in arguing future events which granted some people struggle to comprehend. There is a non zero chance a 35 year old Jose Abreu is replacement level in 2022. I'm not arguing there is a 100% chance. I'm arguing there is a chance. Probably about 1/3 given historical aging curves for similar players. Given that the club has never, ever shown a willingness to cut bait on "franchise favs" historically it's a very real hypothetical situation that they will be stuck with a bad player they won't move on from. You misrepresented my position on Jose as I was quite happy when he accepted the QO. The risk isn't the AAV it's the years. Amazingly they didn't even manage to lower the AAV and handed out the years. It's an irrational baseball move you can't defend on baseball terms and everybody in this thread knows it was an order on high from JR to lock this guy up and have him retire a Sox.

There is very good chance that it's not the money that fucks the Sox it's fielding a replacement level DH in what should be a contending year. The Sox are not going to DFA Jose Abreu even if he's hitting 180/220/400 in late July 2022. And it very well could cost them a pennant, playoff birth, or even WS title. So it's not just the money it's opportunity cost and a roster spot. When your best defense of this deal is "well it probably won't matter" you should re-evaluate your position.

Every take you have that includes a personal anecdote from your widget industry is dumb and you should feel bad for it. MLB teams don't operate in any comparable way to other large corporations. For starters, name another industry where you're guaranteed a profit just for being in the protected club? The Mob I guess. It's a legal cabal. The economics are not applicable to your industry or any other.

I'm pretty firmly of the opinion Vaugh is going to be slashing 280/370/500 in AA in July and force their hand in 2021. For me another puzzling aspect of this deal is not having confidence in the guy you just invested a 3rd overall pick.