Balta1701

QUOTE (bbilek1 @ Jul 27, 2013 -> 09:40 PM) What the f*** is Rios doing? DUMB DUMB DUMB baseball. We call this Venturaball

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 27, 2013 -> 09:33 PM) DP here, flyout afterwards The only part I missed was that Konerkos ball wasn't hit enough to turn 2

Nice slide Adam

DP here, flyout afterwards

QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 27, 2013 -> 09:12 PM) It would really suck if Sale pitches in his prime for bad teams. His prime should be like 3-4 years away, maybe longer.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 27, 2013 -> 09:11 PM) Call that son of a b**** up! Phegley is hitting somewhere in the low .200s now.

Wow that breaking ball was epic. 97 pitches through 7 for Sale, Butler leads off next inning. That's be a good outing for him, so presumably no one will be up in the pen.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jul 27, 2013 -> 07:44 PM) So what. So I can't see anything in his record that remotely suggests that Baltimore did why you said the Sox should have done and cut back on his innings 8 weeks before the deadline.

How on Earth was Keppinger not fast enough to beat that out?

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jul 27, 2013 -> 07:33 PM) It's clear that he was being handled with kid gloves when they knew he was going. He actually threw more innings in June of that year than Crain did this year.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 27, 2013 -> 07:29 PM) I thought it started at 7 to be fair FIREWORKS!! WOOOOOOOOOOO

Bottom of the first and no game thread. This team must not be interesting.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jul 27, 2013 -> 07:04 PM) Koji Uehara pitched 4 innings in two weeks before he was traded to Texas for Chris Davis and Tommy Hunter. He pitched 12 games in June and 11 games in July, and by selectively saying "2 weeks" you exclude the fact that he pitched the 2 games before that right out of the AS break that year. Including a 2 inning stint on the 15th. He threw 13.1 innings in June and 12 in July, with July having the AS break. In May he threw 13 innings in 12 outings, almost the exact same usage. They certainly didn't start slowing him down mid-June, and his July usage is very similar to his June usage and his May usage. If slowing down his usage is something smart teams do, I don't see it there? I mean, you'd be screaming about that 2 inning outing on the 15th. He threw 45 pitches total while pitching in in 3 straight games from July 15-July 17. He even had a 31 pitch, 2 inning outing in late June.

QUOTE (staxx @ Jul 27, 2013 -> 06:48 PM) Hopefully he can keep it up. Would be nice to have another LHP in the wings. He definitely has promise, good velocity, over 90 fastball, maintains it for the game, decent offspeed stuff. When I saw him he lost his arm slot when people got on base and he started pitching from the stretch, but that's something he can learn. Making the jump to AA is supposed to be the biggest jump people make, so it shoudln't surprise us when people need some time after that.

QUOTE (staxx @ Jul 27, 2013 -> 06:50 PM) Agree. Hit the nail directly on the head. Any information out there right now is pretty much useless until something happens. 95% of it is BS. Wouldn't shock me at all to see some random team jump in and get Peavy. I feel like the usual way this goes is that everything comes together for the biggest name on the market on about the 30th, and then another move happens on the 31st or so.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jul 27, 2013 -> 06:48 PM) I was trying to give the Sox the benefit of the doubt. Dumb organizations pitch Crain the way the Sox did in June. So you have other examples? Or you're BSing? I'm legitimately asking. Here's your chance to prove your case. A couple examples of smart organizations doing what you say smart organizations do.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 27, 2013 -> 06:35 PM) That would be pretty difficult to prove, don't you think? Yeah, but so is "no organization would so obviously overwork a guy on the trading block by having him throw 60 pitches over a couple days in late June". If someone's going to claim that a smart organization curtails a guys use late in June/early in July, there ought to be tons of examples since relief pitchers get traded every year. Otherwise it would be flat out irresponsible to claim that smart organizations would do that if there are zero examples, wouldn't you agree?

QUOTE (staxx @ Jul 27, 2013 -> 06:21 PM) I didn't realize that Snodgress isn't having all that bad of a year. A couple weeks ago his numbers were fairly mediocre, then he just caught fire.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jul 27, 2013 -> 06:15 PM) I believe smart organizations curtail Crain's usage understanding his value lies in what he returns you in a trade. That's what I find troubling here. I can't think of a single organization I can ever remember obviously doing this. Can you give a couple examples?

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 27, 2013 -> 05:31 PM) Some great stuff in there, and I agree you can't say with any reasonable certainty when or how or why Crain got injured. I know you're a lawyer...don't you think I can make a pretty good case that if you believe Crain was overworked, and you stated that you believe he might have been, that that increased the likelihood of him suffering an injury? While any one pitch might be the one that causes an injury, that doesn't mean that you throw out all the other contributing factors. Too much work leads to fatigue which often leads to bad mechanics which increases the chances of sustaining injury. To me, the argument isn't whether he was overworked, but rather, was the rationale or reasoning for his frequent usage justifiable? I would argue yes. He was in the final year of his deal (likely no future with our club). He wasn't a young, developing player. We desperately needed him to attempt to stay in contention. RV did what he had to to try and keep the ship afloat. The intention was never to use Crain as an asset to trade until it was too late. I get this too, but the one point Marty could make here is that by June, it was already pretty clear this season was down the toilet, particularly by mid-june. Another inning by Crain wasn't making the difference for the season by the time June 21 rolled around.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 27, 2013 -> 04:49 PM) Well to be fair Peavy wasn't even healthy yet. And Rios said he was never asked about a trade to the Yankees. Didn't some thread say that Rios wouldn't approve a trade to the Yankees and they're on his no-trade list?

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jul 27, 2013 -> 03:44 PM) Perhaps the return Hahn would have gotten would have put them on course to make your 90-win preseason prediction look good. I guarantee you the Angels would happily trade Crain for the guy you kept asking for last offseason...Josh Hamilton.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 27, 2013 -> 03:36 PM) He was so bad yesterday. I don't see how any GM would give up anything of value for this guy. Hate to be so negative, but Lindstrom? He's just another Boone Logan type of pitcher IMO. Just another guy. For once, you're right. "Just another guy" is better than what a bunch of teams have at the back of their bullpen, but I wouldn't give up anyone of value for him if we were in the race. That's why you try to steal someone at the low levels. At least those guys are effectively lottery tickets.

QUOTE (joeynach @ Jul 27, 2013 -> 03:36 PM) We have a career .251/.315/.385 hitter having an obvious career year at .320/.344/.420. that's what you say about a guy when they do that at age 33, not in their mid-20's.

Pujols having an MRI on his foot. Wow, and Josh Hamilton has a sub-.700 OPS on the year.